Has anyone tried the OTS plus map(s)?

[pirate steve]

@PurplFox;
I have an OTS+ that is set up for the mods in my sig and I get ~22 average with primarily city driving.

[chriswillrise]

Depends on how you drive, I'm mostly city and I put my foot down quite often and I'm usually 23 24

[aaronsleeps]

Mine was completed earlier this month. I was running the s-ots that comes with the JBR tip/sri before and was seeing some numbers on logs that were not comforting. While its not significantly faster (im on stock internals currently), the Freektune OTS+ is way more linear, stable, and consistent. The peace of mind and performance bump is absolutely worth it. I will be hitting Justin up for a full tune once I get my tmic, dp, and internals later this fall.

My average gas mileage has been 19.5 since the tune.... entirely due to me driving like a crazy person, and the fact that my work commute is all fun twisties.

[PurplFox]

That's probably what kills mine. i work 6 min from home. takes 15 to get home.
when i pick up my kids they like me to blast the corners so i have to indulge.
still think i will hit up justin. then add a e25 mix.

[SNOW_QN]

Love this thread. For those that have gone from OTS+ to full tune, would you recommend starting OTS+ or go full tune. I'll be getting AT internals and DP soon and wanted a full tune once that happens, but I'm itching to try an OTS+ map now. Car currently has a TIP and CAI with a cobb stage 1 tune.

So, OTS+ now, and full tune later; or just wait for full tune??

[MS3Shadow]

you can do both, and the ($75)OTS+ would be a credit for your ($250) full tune later on

[hollar1211]

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN Love this thread. For those that have gone from OTS+ to full tune, would you recommend starting OTS+ or go full tune. I'll be getting AT internals and DP soon and wanted a full tune once that happens, but I'm itching to try an OTS+ map now. Car currently has a TIP and CAI with a cobb stage 1 tune. So, OTS+ now, and full tune later; or just wait for full tune??

OTS+ now and full tune later. I believe you get the cost of the OTS+ deducted from the full tune within a certain amount of time.

edit; ms3shadow beat me to it.

[SNOW_QN]

Awesome! Thanks guys. Definitely gonna grab internals first, then OTS+. Don't wanna be fuel limited for boost potential. Man, I'm excited!

[Thepedigree13]

I am getting 26-27 mpg. Mods in sig, mostly highway, at least one WOT pull per day. And on the hwy I typically travel over the speed limit.

Pretty sure I would get about 30mpg if I drove slower.

[SnailSpeed3]

I work <10 miles from home, currently tuning with Justin for full E85... Rocking just over 13mpg

[El Beaner]

Originally Posted by Thepedigree13 I am getting 26-27 mpg. Mods in sig, mostly highway, at least one WOT pull per day. And on the hwy I typically travel over the speed limit. Pretty sure I would get about 30mpg if I drove slower.

This has been my averages with mixed city/Hwy driving. That Max mpg was an all highway trip on E85

[murph3699]

Just got my first Map today personally installed by Justin. My AP was slow as molasses but we got through it. He also installed my internals. Had a good time hanging out with the Freek and his cousin for a few hours today. I could feel the difference immediately. I haven't logged anything yet but driving home on the windy back roads of NH was proof enough. Definitely worth doing.

[Justin@Freektune]

Originally Posted by murph3699 Just got my first Map today personally installed by Justin. My AP was slow as molasses but we got through it. He also installed my internals. Had a good time hanging out with the Freek and his cousin for a few hours today. I could feel the difference immediately. I haven't logged anything yet but driving home on the windy back roads of NH was proof enough. Definitely worth doing.

It was a pleasure meeting you today and getting some work in on your car. Once you are able to grab some logs we can make some nice adjustments to dial her in a bit.


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[icee753]

Has anyone tried using a ots+ map at the drag strip?

[icee753]

Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune It was a pleasure meeting you today and getting some work in on your car. Once you are able to grab some logs we can make some nice adjustments to dial her in a bit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

do you know of anyone using your OTS+ maps for the dragstrip? and if so what were the results like?

[Thepedigree13]

That would be heavily dependant on more than just a tune. Mods, driver abilities, elevation, etc.

If you are asking if his tunes yield results, the answer is yes.

[icee753]

Originally Posted by Thepedigree13 That would be heavily dependant on more than just a tune. Mods, driver abilities, elevation, etc. If you are asking if his tunes yield results, the answer is yes.

I didn't ask anything about his tunes having results I have a couple of friends who have his tunes so I know they do. And I know their are a lot of attributes involved but I'm trying to see what the difference is drag strip wise to a cobb ots map so you answered none of my questions haha

[Cheapspeed]

Originally Posted by icee753 I didn't ask anything about his tunes having results I have a couple of friends who have his tunes so I know they do. And I know their are a lot of attributes involved but I'm trying to see what the difference is drag strip wise to a cobb ots map so you answered none of my questions haha

Load the map that makes you faster and you're more likely to go faster at the strip.

[Justin@Freektune]

Originally Posted by icee753 do you know of anyone using your OTS+ maps for the dragstrip? and if so what were the results like?

I've seen guys run 14's and others run low 13's on them. A lot goes into running the car down the track, and it starts in the drivers seat. (you can run mid 12's with slicks and only a 105ish trap speed) For every 10hp or so, you should be able to pick up .1, so I would say comparing it to a tune that makes 20 less hp, you should technically be about .2 faster.

[EnixStorm]

Just ordered a base map thanks to your reviews! Will grab the custom tune knowing that the OTS purchase will go towards the full tune... Very good deal! Gotta rebuild this turbo first

[EvoFire]

Can you guys turn off SWAS for Gen1

[icee753]

Justin thanks for the response I will be ordering soon!

Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune I've seen guys run 14's and others run low 13's on them. A lot goes into running the car down the track, and it starts in the drivers seat. (you can run mid 12's with slicks and only a 105ish trap speed) For every 10hp or so, you should be able to pick up .1, so I would say comparing it to a tune that makes 20 less hp, you should technically be about .2 faster.

[EnixStorm]

Well first impression from the base map I just received was that it was incredibly smoother than the Cobb maps. Every Cobb map I tried out was very choppy and started out with hanging revs with a really rough / stalling idle. This first map is NOTHING like that. I ran 2 of the 3 logs so far and am very impressed with how smooth the base map is running already. Looking to see how the adjustments turn out once I finish my logs and send them in!

[SNOW_QN]

Originally Posted by EnixStorm Well first impression from the base map I just received was that it was incredibly smoother than the Cobb maps. Every Cobb map I tried out was very choppy and started out with hanging revs with a really rough / stalling idle. This first map is NOTHING like that. I ran 2 of the 3 logs so far and am very impressed with how smooth the base map is running already. Looking to see how the adjustments turn out once I finish my logs and send them in!

Nice. I feel like my map is choppy also. Glad to hear it's most likely the map and not something mechanical. What fuel are you running, and how does it feel during WOT vs your Cobb map?

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[EnixStorm]

Yea it's definitely the maps IMO. Feels much better WOT. I had a slight hang up mid range but it is the first map and the first WOT I performed so it was definitely expected and could have been anything. I'm running 93 down here in South Florida and it's over 93 degrees too everyday so I always have high temps to compete with . The Cobb maps for me over the past 2 months have been very hangy and choppy, and my car is Cobb-outfitted so if anything they should be synced to their own specs but they are not.

So far I would definitely recommend the OTS+ from Justin and will post more as this process continues.

[white devil]

I'm really looking forward to getting a full freektune down the road (still have sri, tip, tmic and internals left to do).

I just just picked up an AP, so my question is are the internals necessary before I get an OTS+? I am going to do them soon and I'm stock right now other than a Magnaflow cat back. I would just rather use a tune better than the cobb OTS one until I get a few more parts on, then get the full tune.

[SNOW_QN]

Cool. Thanks for the info. I'm about a week away from ordering a ots+ map. Waiting on a 3 port ebcs and gotta do my vvt. Once I get the ots+ I'm gonna set up a full ethanol tune next month.. as long as my clutch doesn't shit the bed before then.

Looking forward to hearing how it turns out after your revision.

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[SNOW_QN]

Originally Posted by white devil I'm really looking forward to getting a full freektune down the road (still have sri, tip, tmic and internals left to do). I just just picked up an AP, so my question is are the internals necessary before I get an OTS+? I am going to do them soon and I'm stock right now other than a Magnaflow cat back. I would just rather use a tune better than the cobb OTS one until I get a few more parts on, then get the full tune.

I think he will tune it with the stock internals (pretty sure I read it in this thread somewhere) but I would strongly recommend waiting. Just get internals and then tune it if your anxious to get an ots+. I've been wanting to get one since I got the car but I keep buying parts and telling myself to wait to tune until the next part is on. Lol Want to maximize the results.

I'm pretty close to fully bolted on now, so I'm finally ready to get the tune. My suggestion is at least wait until you do the internals. It will be worth it.

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[white devil]

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN I think he will tune it with the stock internals (pretty sure I read it in this thread somewhere) but I would strongly recommend waiting. Just get internals and then tune it if your anxious to get an ots+. I've been wanting to get one since I got the car but I keep buying parts and telling myself to wait to tune until the next part is on. Lol Want to maximize the results. I'm pretty close to fully bolted on now, so I'm finally ready to get the tune. My suggestion is at least wait until you do the internals. It will be worth it. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

They are next on my list...I just don't know how soon I will be able to get them in. I can't really get all my parts on the car right now before getting a full tune. I'm just looking to get a OTS+ to have some fun with as I let my build fund build back up.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll wait until after I get my internals in

[EnixStorm]

Originally Posted by white devil I'm really looking forward to getting a full freektune down the road (still have sri, tip, tmic and internals left to do). I just just picked up an AP, so my question is are the internals necessary before I get an OTS+? I am going to do them soon and I'm stock right now other than a Magnaflow cat back. I would just rather use a tune better than the cobb OTS one until I get a few more parts on, then get the full tune.

Honestly you should definitely get the internals in before the tune. Unfortunately it has been the mainstay of limiting power levels for the MS3. If you're injectors are not getting enough fuel to spray for the combustion stage, you're going to be too lean and BOOM! It has occurred way too many times already for new enthusiasts to have to pay that price as well if you get what I mean.

Plus you won't get the same wow factor from a tune that you would really want because you can't really push even stock components on stock HPFP internals. SOME speed3s have been able to up their boost and power levels on stock internals but who knows for how long? I know driving 100 miles a day I wouldn't chance it... But if I had 25k miles on a 5 year old car then maybe I would because I might not drive it enough to experience zzb lol.

The hardest part is trying not to get sprayed in the face with the fuel haha. Other than that it's a really simple install. I had more issues fitting my TIP in than doing the pump.

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN Cool. Thanks for the info. I'm about a week away from ordering a ots+ map. Waiting on a 3 port ebcs and gotta do my vvt. Once I get the ots+ I'm gonna set up a full ethanol tune next month.. as long as my clutch doesn't shit the bed before then. Looking forward to hearing how it turns out after your revision. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I actually have my DP and a few other engine mods on the way tomorrow but won't be able to install for awhile, for which I will be spending the next $125 for a full tune on honestly the "deal" is a bargain! Great tuning with solid support by reviews and at a fraction of the cost of other entities and of course a dyno tune. The fact that the OTS purchase is applied towards a full tune price later down the road was the kicker for me.

[MS3Shadow]

Originally Posted by EnixStorm The hardest part is trying not to get sprayed in the face with the fuel haha

In the Cobb install video, they want you to pull a fuse so it can start the car and wait until it dies so there wouldn't be fuel there.

[white devil]

My 07 speed6 is sitting at 59k and is basically stock except for my catback. I know I can't push that much on the stock internals, I was just more asking if its even worth getting the OTS+ if I can't get the internals in for the next month or so.

Don't worry about me and ZZB, i've done my research haha. I guess I could always be irresponsible and just charge the internals to my credit card.....

[SNOW_QN]

I'm curious, when I get my ots tune for 93 will it be applied to the full tune I'm getting for an ethanol tune? That would be amazing if that's the case

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[EnixStorm]

Originally Posted by MS3Shadow In the Cobb install video, they want you to pull a fuse so it can start the car and wait until it dies so there wouldn't be fuel there.

Yea the fuel thing... Did that. Been working on aircraft and cars for a long time. Pulled the fuse, started the car, let it die, tried starting it again, no fuel... Pulled the line and SPLASH! Still residual pressure haha. It happens. Only part I disliked as everything else was fairly straight forward.

[SNOW_QN]

Originally Posted by MS3Shadow In the Cobb install video, they want you to pull a fuse so it can start the car and wait until it dies so there wouldn't be fuel there.

I pulled that fuse and ran it till it died. Sumbitch still had lots of pressure when I pulled the top line off. Best thing to do is start with the bottom line and let it slowly bleed out before disconnecting it completely. Wear some safety glasses just in case.

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Lol @EnixStorm; you beat me to it.

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[EnixStorm]

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN I'm curious, when I get my ots tune for 93 will it be applied to the full tune I'm getting for an ethanol tune? That would be amazing if that's the case Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

You'll have to ask Justin but it says if you're getting an ethanol tune that they'll provide a 93 too. Although it sounds backwards process wise as to what you're doing, I'm sure if you talk to them they will work with you. In fact, I think going full tune you cod pretty much do a full build after your OTS and the OTS purchase will still be applied. Don't quote me though... This message or its content lol.

[SNOW_QN]

Lol... Yeah, I'll ask him before I purchase. I'm going to be running the ethanol all the time, and 93 when I'm in a situation where e isn't available. Figured I'd just do the ots for 93 to get something started, and as a good backup. If the ethanol tune comes with a decent 93 base than I guess I would just do that then. I really need to hit Justin up soon so I can figure out what I need to do.

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[El Beaner]

Originally Posted by SNOW_QN Lol... Yeah, I'll ask him before I purchase. I'm going to be running the ethanol all the time, and 93 when I'm in a situation where e isn't available. Figured I'd just do the ots for 93 to get something started, and as a good backup. If the ethanol tune comes with a decent 93 base than I guess I would just do that then. I really need to hit Justin up soon so I can figure out what I need to do. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Get a full 93 tune + aux fuel add on. It comes out the same as doing an ots 93 + full e85 tune anyway so might as well have full tunes on both

[EnixStorm]

Originally Posted by El Beaner Get a full 93 tune + aux fuel add on. It comes out the same as doing an ots 93 + full e85 tune anyway so might as well have full tunes on both

I will be doing the same now actually... E85 literally on my corner

[SNOW_QN]

Originally Posted by El Beaner Get a full 93 tune + aux fuel add on. It comes out the same as doing an ots 93 + full e85 tune anyway so might as well have full tunes on both

So 93 ots payment isn't applied to e85 tune? If that's the case then I would end up going the route you described.

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