We've been working on sumtin... manifold

[865ms3]

I need this like meow. I'll ditch my v1 jmf and go this route for my pi setup.

Options are good. Thanks guys!


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[Farhan@DM]

About that track testing...

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[Micha]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM About that track testing... http://youtu.be/ARODwLK91QI

Worst video recorder ever. Must be retarded.

[JakeMS3]

Not bad, not bad at all. Subbed for outcome.

[ericrapp0507@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by JakeMS3 Not bad, not bad at all. Subbed for outcome.

this is interesting. someone had their thinking cap on over there !
Hope to see this come to market

[Dumbguy]

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[LittleredMPS]

Damn. Now this has potential. Really want this to happen.

[Lex]

There are a lot of similarities between the ST and DISI ... like the throttle body bolt pattern and sizing .

Also this really opens up the ability to run under-engine intercooler piping.

There are also advantages to plastic:
- heat rejection
- weight
- cost

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by Lex There are a lot of similarities between the ST and DISI ...

So much this it's not even funny. Ford changed so little it's hilarious.

[Vansquish]

I assume it also increases the likelihood of being able to use FoST intercoolers as well, no?

[TiGraySpeed6]

This is for the focus st ecoboost right? 2.0 litre? Say, from 2014-2016 isn't it?

not that I'm perusing eBay or anything. ....

[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 This is for the focus st ecoboost right? 2.0 litre? Say, from 2014-2016 isn't it? not that I'm perusing eBay or anything. ....

Possibly, but damond could be making a slightly modified one so it actually fits nicely for us...

[Gerbilo]

Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 This is for the focus st ecoboost right? 2.0 litre? Say, from 2014-2016 isn't it? not that I'm perusing eBay or anything. ....

Ecoboost 2.0 from the Focus ST(the other ecoboost 2.0s could share an identical manifold, I'm just not sure.) 2013-2016+ They did a slight refresh for 2015-16. Not sure how much mechanically was involved or if it was more of an aesthetics thing. I'm thinking the ECU/tune was changed a little(due to a misfire issue only 15+ are having), but I doubt the intake manifold.

[faeker]

Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 This is for the focus st ecoboost right? 2.0 litre? Say, from 2014-2016 isn't it? not that I'm perusing eBay or anything. ....

I have a 2014 EB manifold. It's said to fit all them.

Originally Posted by LittleredMPS Damn. Now this has potential. Really want this to happen.

it is happening

[Yatta]

I will just leave this here:

[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by Yatta I will just leave this here:

That's not a speed bay

[ryguy 3]

Originally Posted by AwAfrican That's not a speed bay

It means there's more vehicles to scavenge the plastic intake manifold from, so that's a plus.

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[Spectrix]

Ahem...

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Spectrix Ahem...

Well, that one will SUREly leak like a sieve...

[faeker]

it's a foST. what about it.

[ryguy 3]

Originally Posted by faeker it's a foST. what about it.

On the bottom of the pic it's stamped "land rover"

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[faeker]

Originally Posted by ryguy 3 On the bottom of the pic it's stamped "land rover" Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

holy shit. good catch dude. I didn't see the whole pic.

[Vansquish]

Yeah...so?

It's fairly well-known in the industry that the Evoque uses the 2.0L Ecoboost.

[Yatta]

Originally Posted by Vansquish Yeah...so? It's fairly well-known in the industry that the Evoque uses the 2.0L Ecoboost.

earlier in the thread it was mentioned that any eco-boost would/could be made to work, some are better than others to start with, no symposer (no flow tests either but designs are similar) I can’t find the part number but they vary from mondeo, to escape/edge. to S60, to Evoque, the Evoque part looks to have more volume in the the runners as well. Finding a picture of them side by side would be good...

[MS3Shadow]

There's a lot of vehicles that use Ecoboost. They may also use the (ST) manifold.

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[WetzMS3]

You are missing a very critical piece.

[Code Monkey]

I wonder if with this mani we could run a blow-through setup, assuming the piping to the TB can be a slightly longer straight piece....

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey I wonder if with this mani we could run a blow-through setup, assuming the piping to the TB can be a slightly longer straight piece....

Yes, just a 180 around the radiator, then a 90* straight up to the throttle body. Same as the LNF cobalt SS engines when they go blow through.

Your setup would be tricky though since both your inlet and outlet are on the top. Clock the turbo over and flip the intercooler over and have the hot pipe go under the car?

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Voltwings Clock the turbo over and flip the intercooler over and have the hot pipe go under the car?

With the transfer case in the way? Nice try.

[nindoja]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey With the transfer case in the way? Nice try.

this made me laugh way more than it should have given the number of times the transfer case has hosed me on my 6.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey With the transfer case in the way? Nice try.

Lol oh yeah. AWD FTL

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey With the transfer case in the way? Nice try.

I'm very curious how they managed it with the Focus RS. The engine and transmission are mounted in roughly the same fashion as in the MS6, so there's a pretty good chance they had to get creative to maneuver the intercooler piping beneath motor.

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by Vansquish I'm very curious how they managed it with the Focus RS. The engine and transmission are mounted in roughly the same fashion as in the MS6, so there's a pretty good chance they had to get creative to maneuver the intercooler piping beneath motor.

Looks like there's enough room to go around the tcase and under the engine. I'm surprised there's enough room for it to go that low. Maybe they brought the engine up a tad. Also the turbo might be mounted a bit more rearward in from the engine than ours, something that would be an allowance from a different engine bay.

Edit: Interesting, seems like they have a small intermediate shaft coming out of their tcase for their passenger side axle. So I would chalk it up as a more compact tcase which allows them to run it under the engine.

[MD1032]

So yeah, my wishlist:

1) TMIC support
2) SFI with ability to control the relative pulse width of each individual injector (allows balancing fueling to the whole system if you have EGT/O2 sensor data for each runner on the EM)

[Boost_creep]

After looking at the pictures of this manifold, I notice that each cylinder is a single runner, as opposed to the DISI with two runners per cylinder. That is going to be an issue for anyone still running the stock (unported) head. Unless this kit will come with a knife edge gasket, or something similar?

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by Boost_creep After looking at the pictures of this manifold, I notice that each cylinder is a single runner, as opposed to the DISI with two runners per cylinder. That is going to be an issue for anyone still running the stock (unported) head. Unless this kit will come with a knife edge gasket, or something similar?

THere's a thread on this very forum that says it shouldnt be.

"Shouldnt be."

An In Depth Analysis of The MZR DISI Head

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Voltwings THere's a thread on this very forum that says it shouldnt be. "Shouldnt be." An In Depth Analysis of The MZR DISI Head

Give you one guess at what manifold the author of that thread is running...

Hint: It's not from a BMW, or Coca-Cola.

[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Give you one guess at what manifold the author of that thread is running... Hint: It's not from a BMW, or Coca-Cola.

Dusty tittays manifold?

CatDickRacing?

[nindoja]

Originally Posted by WetzMS3 Dusty tittays manifold? CatDickRacing?

Nah, I have the pallet of CDR manifolds in my garage. @neganox; thinks they are sitting in customs, but my connections got them re-routed to my house.

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by Voltwings THere's a thread on this very forum that says it shouldnt be. "Shouldnt be." An In Depth Analysis of The MZR DISI Head

Ahem, well I drew that conclusion off two obervations.

1. I think Ferd engineers took it into account. If they saw any gains from a knife edge, it must not have been noticeable or worth the money it would cost to incorporate the design.

2. Based off the testing I did with the stock manifold, going from a gasket matched mani to a single runner, the gains were consistent as from when moving from stock to the gasket matched. Which leads me to believe a knife edge has minimal effect on flow. Though, it's always possible that I could be wrong.

Edit: As a side note, after looking at the EB head, you can see the port entries are the same size vs our large and small one. This also agrees with my theory that our head can see good gains from making both ports equally sized.

And one more little idea that just popped into my mind. What could be happening as to WHY there aren't much gains from a knife edge. 1 theory is that the air hits the divider and slows down, creating an "air divider" which causes the remaining air stream to flow eually into each port. Or 2 it could be that the air hits the divider which causes it to go into a swirling motion which helps pull more air into the port. I have ZERO evidence that either of these are happening but it's just ideas