Short Shift Plates

[iamareios]

Originally Posted by aackthpt With the Damond SSP I use the leather CS knob. I have tested all the weights... from low to high: -No weight -Cobb weight -JBR weight -stock weight I concluded that no weight and Cobb were too notchy, stock weight too slow, JBR weight near perfect. Therefore I'm inclined to agree with Matt's comments on balancing the system. With that said, I also think it's a good idea to go with a setup that lightens both as much as you can personally stand to reduce the amount of g-load-induced undesired shifting.

Interesting. I have been running the jbr ssp, shift bushings, and heavy shift knob for awhile now. I haven't really enjoyed the notchy feeling the ssp has created. I've swapped fluids and blah blah. My next course of action was to extend the shifter 3 inches. Needless to say, I just ordered a DM ssp to see if it makes a difference. That's about the only thing unenjoyable about my car at this point.

Is anyone running a shift extender of some sort along with a heavier shifter weight and knob? I misplaced my stock shift weight so we'll see how this goes. I'll report my findings.

[Dennisms3]

Just bought my dm ssp and an oem weight! Super exited to put it on. Iv been running a mazdaspeed ssp with the aftermarket weight it came with and also getting 3rd gear lockout. I took off the ssp and ran the stock shift plate with the aftermarket weight and still got third gear lockout every now and then, and I hated the long shift throws. And no I didn't have an oem weight because I purchased this car with the ssp and the aftermarket weight. Although I think this aftermarket weight is heaver than the oem one, I know this because I own plenty of speeds in the past and know what the oem shift weight feels like. So hopefully the dm ssp and stock shift weight solve my problem. Ill let yall know.


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[sharksinspace]

@Dennisms3; have you adjusted the shifter at all to see if that helps with the lockout? It usually takes a bit of tweaking once a SSP is installed to get it going smoothly; although it still may not be perfect...I've adjusted mine a bunch with the CS SSP and first gear is still a bit tticky on occasion.

[Dennisms3]

Originally Posted by sharksinspace @Dennisms3; have you adjusted the shifter at all to see if that helps with the lockout? It usually takes a bit of tweaking once a SSP is installed to get it going smoothly; although it still may not be perfect...I've adjusted mine a bunch with the CS SSP and first gear is still a bit tticky on occasion.

Yes, I tried adjusting the shifter as you said and had little luck with that. I got a little better but still had 3rd gear lockout every now and then. I think it could be the shifter weight thats on the car at the moment is whats causing that. I could be wrong but I tried just about everything including swapping the tranny fluid with that expensive ford stuff.


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[Farhan@DM]

Shift weights can't really cause lockout. That's a function of geometry, parts conditions, and operating condition.

In general, if simple cable adjustment can't get your shifting to be consistent with a new part, take that part off. You shouldn't have to be playing with weights or fluids to make a part work as it is advertised to. If the problem persists, you may have other mechanical issues.

[Dennisms3]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Shift weights can't really cause lockout. That's a function of geometry, parts conditions, and operating condition. In general, if simple cable adjustment can't get your shifting to be consistent with a new part, take that part off. You shouldn't have to be playing with weights or fluids to make a part work as it is advertised to. If the problem persists, you may have other mechanical issues.

I understand the adjustment to the cable. Shifting into third is fine when driving normally. I only get lockout during wot occasionally with the clutch all the way pressed. So ill try the stock shift weight and see what happens. If the problem is still present then ill look into other things. Maybe the transmission.


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[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by Dennisms3 I understand the adjustment to the cable. Shifting into third is fine when driving normally. I only get lockout during wot occasionally with the clutch all the way pressed. So ill try the stock shift weight and see what happens. If the problem is still present then ill look into other things. Maybe the transmission. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good motor mounts helps with that 3rd gear issue.

[Dennisms3]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Good motor mounts helps with that 3rd gear issue.

I have a torque solution rmm.


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[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by Dennisms3 I have a torque solution rmm.

...Good motor mounts help with that 3rd gear issue.

[iamareios]

Removed my JBR ssp last night and got the damond plate in.
I'm running it currently with no weight to get a feel for things before adding weight. I only have a JBR shift weight as i lost my stock weight.

Currently:
-Damond ssp, 3 inch shift extension, jbr weighted knob, jbr shift bushings

I really like the feel of the DM ssp. There is a noticeable difference in ease of getting into gears while shifting. The notchiness is definitely gone when compared to the jbr plate. It just clicks nicely into the next gear. This was about the only thing i could not stand about my car. I didn't think switching plates would warrant any change, but yet again you guys made an awesome well thought out product. Slowly but surely all the JBR parts are being phased out with your motor mounts for the least NVH, and now this SSP. Good work guys!

[iamareios]

Long story short, after trying many different combinations I settled on the damond plate with my JBR weighted knob, shift extension, and lighter than stock shift counter weight off eBay. In my opinion this setup suits me well and is refined but buttery smooth. The JBR counter weight was just too unbalanced. No weight was sloppy. Hope this helps!

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by iamareios lighter than stock shift counter weight off eBay.

Sauce on eBay weight?

[iamareios]

Originally Posted by aackthpt Sauce on eBay weight?

Got this one in black. It's pretty light
NYPPD Short Shift Counter Weight Blue Mazdaspeed 3: 2007 08 09 10 11 12 13 & up | eBay

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by iamareios Got this one in black. It's pretty light NYPPD Short Shift Counter Weight Blue Mazdaspeed 3: 2007 08 09 10 11 12 13 & up | eBay

Thank you. Did you weigh yours? I'd like to see its weight in grams. Based on other threads:

Stock: 580g
JBR: 354g
Cobb: 280g (? calculated, unconfirmed ?)

The listing claims "75% reduction", I don't really trust that but it would result in 135g. Since it's aluminum it would make sense that it would be quite light.

[iamareios]

I did not weigh it unfortunately. It looks similar to this torque solutions shift weight
TORQUE SOLUTION SHORT SHIFT WEIGHT FOR MAZDASPEED 3 2010+ | eBay
I'm sure you could contact the seller through ebay to find out.

[MaxSpeed13]

Bumping thread for review.

Ordered SSP from DM, shipped fast, and arrived to me fast also, which is a plus.

Install took around half an hour due to cold weather. You could easily install this in 10 minutes or less if you have all the tools in front of you.

The part itself is high quality, the only thing I would add to it would maybe a small laser engraved logo on it. I would have paid extra for that.

Initial feel:
Definite difference over stock, throws are shorter, and more precise, this is how the car should have came from factory. The shifter itself is also a little bit tighter. I am using the OEM weight and OEM shift knob. Next will be an aftermarket weighted shift knob as the leather on mine is wearing out and looks like shit.

For those TLDR; Fast shipping by seller, quick/easy install, noticeable improvement over stock, highly recommended.

[Farhan@DM]

Originally Posted by MaxSpeed13 Bumping thread for review. Ordered SSP from DM, shipped fast, and arrived to me fast also, which is a plus. Install took around half an hour due to cold weather. You could easily install this in 10 minutes or less if you have all the tools in front of you. The part itself is high quality, the only thing I would add to it would maybe a small laser engraved logo on it. I would have paid extra for that. Initial feel: Definite difference over stock, throws are shorter, and more precise, this is how the car should have came from factory. The shifter itself is also a little bit tighter. I am using the OEM weight and OEM shift knob. Next will be an aftermarket weighted shift knob as the leather on mine is wearing out and looks like shit. For those TLDR; Fast shipping by seller, quick/easy install, noticeable improvement over stock, highly recommended.

Thanks for the review. I've gone back and forth with heavier and lighter weights and knobs. I haven't found a better setup for me than stock knob and weight with our SSP. Actually run that setup on my daily and both racecars.

[MaxSpeed13]

Originally Posted by Farhan@DM Thanks for the review. I've gone back and forth with heavier and lighter weights and knobs. I haven't found a better setup for me than stock knob and weight with our SSP. Actually run that setup on my daily and both racecars.

You are welcome. I figured as much. I just don't want to get another leather wrapped shift knob that will wear out and look like shit after 2 years. I will try and look for a SS one that is roughly the same weight as OEM.

[dix2003]

Tomei shift knob(70mm), Damond Motorsport SSP and Cobb shifter weight = very good setup

[pyrophelia]

I just ordered my SSP from you guys after reading all of the great reviews here. I will also be sure to leave one on your website after installation. Thank you all for the information and a special thanks to Damond for continuing to make high quality parts for our platform.