Not the first big turbo ST

[Chamber]

Started planning my big turbo build. Gonna go with an EFR 6758, just shopping around for the best price right now. Sticking with the internal wastegate for now. Planning to make about 340/340 until a clutch/flywheel kit comes out then crank up the boost. Hopefully have Ollie from OCDSpeed do the fabrication work. Quaife LSD, Mountune FMIC, FSWerks intake, OCDSpeed downpipe, OCDSpeed 1-piece IC piping. Either get an e-tune from Kaizen or take it to a local protuner.

[Tokay444]

cool story bro.

[faeker]

fun. should probably make a proper intro thread.

[Tokay444]

You fags need big turbo to make 340/340?

[DAN MPS 3]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 You fags need big turbo to make 340/340?

And a real diff to put any of it to the ground...

[BooSTed_Hatch]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 You fags need big turbo to make 340/340?

LOL

[Raider]

Wow guys, way to shit on a new member...

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Chamber Started planning my big turbo build. Gonna go with an EFR 6758, just shopping around for the best price right now. Sticking with the internal wastegate for now. Planning to make about 340/340 until a clutch/flywheel kit comes out then crank up the boost. Hopefully have Ollie from OCDSpeed do the fabrication work. Quaife LSD, Mountune FMIC, FSWerks intake, OCDSpeed downpipe, OCDSpeed 1-piece IC piping. Either get an e-tune from Kaizen or take it to a local protuner.

Hey and welcome! I am interested to see the potential of these cars. Who is Kaizen?

[MizzyMS3]

Originally Posted by Lex Hey and welcome! I am interested to see the potential of these cars. Who is Kaizen?

Kaizen Tuning

Is this them?

[silvapain]

I'm all for messing with people too dense to search on here, but OP seems to actually be willing to put real money and effort into his car. Let's give the dude a chance.

OP: Be sure to post lots of pics and technical info. I'd be interested as hell to see some ST's make decent power!

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Raider Wow guys, way to shit on a new member...

because not new member thread.

[Raider]

Still, new guy, and immediately ripped on. Unwarranted. I mean, if he asked what BOV to get, yeah. This is not the case.

Take it down a notch.

[faeker]

First time i didnt harass a new guy making a thread. I just suggested he make a proper hello there post.

sent with smiles and mouth hugs

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by faeker First time i didnt harass a new guy making a thread. I just suggested he make a proper hello there post. sent with smiles and mouth hugs

He did post an intro like a month ago if you look at his post history!

Good luck on the build OP post pictures of your progress.

[Voltwings]

Anyone can rattle off a laundry list of stuff they want, I'll be interested when it starts going somewhere. Keep us posted.

[Tokay444]

But but but
Ginger Viking avatar.

[Chamber]

Update: Priced the 6758 at $1440 shipped, LSD at $984 shipped. Emailed Mountune about their FMIC core dimensions. Found out they're looking into coming to the USA, which will save me a few hundred in shipping and import tax. Have the IC piping on the way. Emailed Turbosmart to see if they have an adjustable IWG actuator that'll work with the 6758 (They list for stock turbo to specific cars and I don't have to time to research all that). Spec has clutches available, waiting for more options. Fidanza is planning to release a flywheel, Clutch Masters should have clutch/flywheel options in a month or two. Ollie from OCDSpeed is searching for someone to let him borrow their car for a day or two so he can fab up the turbo adapter. I'd drive out there, but he's 1500 miles away. Pictures:

Stock vs OCDSpeed IC piping:

http://ocdspeed.com/wp-content/uploa...7/IMG_1552.jpg

OCDSpeed DP:


FSWerks Inlet Tube + Green Filter:


Car as it sits, minus RallyArmorUR mudflaps:

[Vansquish]

@Chamber;

Your sig is incorrect. The LSD is made by Quaife* not "Quife."

[NCspecV81]

Don't the st lose hp with a downpipe?

[dsmluck]

Originally Posted by Chamber Update: Priced the 6758 at $1440 shipped, LSD at $984 shipped. Emailed Mountune about their FMIC core dimensions. Found out they're looking into coming to the USA, which will save me a few hundred in shipping and import tax. Have the IC piping on the way. Emailed Turbosmart to see if they have an adjustable IWG actuator that'll work with the 6758 (They list for stock turbo to specific cars and I don't have to time to research all that). Spec has clutches available, waiting for more options. Fidanza is planning to release a flywheel, Clutch Masters should have clutch/flywheel options in a month or two. Ollie from OCDSpeed is searching for someone to let him borrow their car for a day or two so he can fab up the turbo adapter. I'd drive out there, but he's 1500 miles away.

You in Denver? Nice car!

[Lex]

Has the fueling system limit been reached on the ST? I heard it is more limited than the MS3.

[Chamber]

Originally Posted by NCspecV81 Don't the st lose hp with a downpipe?

Not from all the research I've found. The ST downpipe isn't as restrictive as other cars' and minimal gains were achieved when adding a DP to a car with an intake and upgrade FMIC, but I can't imagine better flow would hurt any.

Originally Posted by dsmluck You in Denver? Nice car!

SE Aurora (Tower and Hampden)

Originally Posted by Lex Has the fueling system limit been reached on the ST? I heard it is more limited than the MS3.

Kmac is the closest to finding out the limits of the fuel system. I believe he sent the pump and injectors out to see what can be done about it. Ford engineers have stated that the turbo and fuel system are maxed out on the ST. From Cobb, dated 5/29/13:

"We are currently running up to 2850psi on KMACs car which is pushing the factory system quite hard. The spill valve is designed to purge at 3000psi so there is little room for error at this power output level. I am quite surprised that the stock components are tolerating the abuse we've thrown their way!

We have complete control over the ECU and have dialed in the boost control system to stay on the ragged edge of the fuel system's capacity. This has been done to insure we know the true capacity of the fuel system and can design upgrade options for those looking to stick with OEM fuel components.

I am fairly certain that the true capacity if the fuel system was not fully explored with a minor chra upgrade. I am also confident that small blends of e85 will work wonders with this motor and fully intend to explore this in the near future with the OEM fuel system."

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Chamber Not from all the research I've found. The ST downpipe isn't as restrictive as other cars' and minimal gains were achieved when adding a DP to a car with an intake and upgrade FMIC, but I can't imagine better flow would hurt any. SE Aurora (Tower and Hampden) Kmac is the closest to finding out the limits of the fuel system. I believe he sent the pump and injectors out to see what can be done about it. Ford engineers have stated that the turbo and fuel system are maxed out on the ST. From Cobb, dated 5/29/13: "We are currently running up to 2850psi on KMACs car which is pushing the factory system quite hard. The spill valve is designed to purge at 3000psi so there is little room for error at this power output level. I am quite surprised that the stock components are tolerating the abuse we've thrown their way! We have complete control over the ECU and have dialed in the boost control system to stay on the ragged edge of the fuel system's capacity. This has been done to insure we know the true capacity of the fuel system and can design upgrade options for those looking to stick with OEM fuel components. I am fairly certain that the true capacity if the fuel system was not fully explored with a minor chra upgrade. I am also confident that small blends of e85 will work wonders with this motor and fully intend to explore this in the near future with the OEM fuel system."

So did they or did they not reach the fueling limit?

[lug]

Originally Posted by Lex So did they or did they not reach the fueling limit?

The best dynos I've seen is an ATP turbo setup that hit 372 whp on the standard fuel system.



No idea if fuel was a limiting factor yet or not.

[Tokay444]

so a 550whp turbo is choking up at 370?
sounds like ford didn't bother to do anything in the of increasing flow anywhere from the disi, in fact it looks worse.

[Natey]

Sounds like Tokay doesn't like the new ford.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 so a 550whp turbo is choking up at 370? sounds like ford didn't bother to do anything in the of increasing flow anywhere from the disi, in fact it looks worse.

Tuning is probably not refined yet

[lug]

Originally Posted by Lex Tuning is probably not refined yet

I think they just slapped a COBB stage 2 tune on it. If I'm reading it right, they've since move to a different turbo for their development. This one just has the highest hp I've seen on the stock gas system.

[Chamber]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 so a 550whp turbo is choking up at 370? sounds like ford didn't bother to do anything in the of increasing flow anywhere from the disi, in fact it looks worse.

Yep.

[Natey]

I cant see shit. Pic is WAY too small.

[silvapain]

Originally Posted by Natey I cant see shit. Pic is WAY too small.

That's life size. It's the intake ports that are way too small.

[Fastar]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 so a 550whp turbo is choking up at 370? sounds like ford didn't bother to do anything in the of increasing flow anywhere from the disi, in fact it looks worse.

Not bad for 91 Octane.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by lug I think they just slapped a COBB stage 2 tune on it. If I'm reading it right, they've since move to a different turbo for their development. This one just has the highest hp I've seen on the stock gas system.

Where are you getting this info from?

[lug]

Originally Posted by Lex Where are you getting this info from?

They post over on

Ford Focus ST Forum

Got the dyno off their site:

DYNO-DATA - 2013 FOCUS ST 2.0L TURBO : atpturbo.com

as far as I can tell, they are still fine tuning a couple of turbo options for the ST.

[Voltwings]

Horsepower is only part of the equation, rpms is the other. 370+ whp at 6500 rpms is slightly better than us, if not right on par ... i know on 93 octane alone my car would start breaking up at 100%+ IDC around those same rpms when i started turning the boost up. Not sure what the IDC looks like on this car, but i also have a hard time believing its making that power on 91 octane alone (i.e.: meth injection).

[Lex]

Originally Posted by lug They post over on Ford Focus ST Forum Got the dyno off their site: DYNO-DATA - 2013 FOCUS ST 2.0L TURBO : atpturbo.com as far as I can tell, they are still fine tuning a couple of turbo options for the ST.

Do you have a link to the thread?

[lug]

Originally Posted by Lex Do you have a link to the thread?

Here's one they did with the GT28 turbo, can't find one with the big boy.

Atp turbo ran 12.9 107 gt28 bolt on

and here's a slip and dyno from the GTX2867R
http://www.atpturbo.com/root/release...3focusdyno.jpg

[EricM]

ATP turbo has promising results so far with that car. Excited to see where this goes though! I can't stand the focus boards, everyone there is so noob and only cares about gay shit like mudguards and painted calipers.

[Chamber]

Courtesy of corsair from focusst.org:
From


To



Just a prototype he has on his car. Needs some tweaks then I plan on getting one. He's in the process of making an IM out of billet alum.

[EricM]

Wow! That's impressive. In for results.