OFFICIAL Warranty Extension Program on turbo and VVT Actuator Thread.

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Hey guys for one who have smoke turbo and the crazy vvt noise and that out of warranty the for the turbo and vvt mazda have extended the warranty on them ssp86 and
ssp87

[Dahouse702]

Haven't had the issue yet, would be a pain in the ass to stock out for this vvt repair.

[crazyp]

nice, wonder if theyll do my car if I ever get the vvt noise

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by crazyp nice, wonder if theyll do my car if I ever get the vvt noise

They should I don't see why not lol..

[Raider]

Motherfuckers. 84,000 miles when ours was replaced. Assholes. Such low miles allowed.

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by Raider Motherfuckers. 84,000 miles when ours was replaced. Assholes. Such low miles allowed.

You at least can get your money back on the parts

[JacksonMS30]

You think they'd notice that my turbo is a little swollen?

[Raider]

We had it done out of their warranty scope. I'll call tomorrow, find out what maintenance receipts they want.

[ScarMS3]

So this would require a stock out for sure right? Seems like less of a hassle to just let them do it at cost.

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by ScarMS3 So this would require a stock out for sure right? Seems like less of a hassle to just let them do it at cost.

No just take care of the person who working on your car and advisor..

[memin]

That is some good stuff, Thanks pblo!!!!

[superskaterxes]

fml my car was built 12/05 haha

factory freak FTW!!!!!!

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes fml my car was built 12/05 haha factory freak FTW!!!!!!

It goes by when the car was sold tht when the warranty start

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by SPEED6 KILLAH It goes by when the car was sold tht when the warranty start

it says produced from XX not sold on XX. thats why it has your build date on the door sticker right?

[Don06speed6]

I can haz another extension past 100K?????

[BobbleHead]

damn 80,000 miles. My VVt doesn't make noise though and my turbo hasn't smoked since I raised my idle.

[Raider]

I am on the phone with Mazda right now.

[Raider]

If you were over 70,000 when the VVT failed or was replaced, there is NO REFUND.

That said, I say stock out with your cock out if you got the problem, and get it fixed for free. Do it while you can. If you fall under the VIN and mileage, check the VVT for the rattle. Cold start with hood up and listen for it to do this:

MS3 VVT malfunction - YouTube

MS3 VVT malfunction - YouTube

If it does that sound, stock out, collect oil change receipts, and go in.

For the turbo, just let it idle 20 minutes. See miles a fucking smoke come out like a steam engine, stock out and go in.

Fucking 14,000 miles too far for a fucking refund. Oh well.

[abiezerf]

Damn, I wish we wouldn't have to stock out, since it isn't the mods fault the turbo breaks. Damnit!

[Chimmike]

MOTHERFUCK. I did the repair myself, and just hit 70k miles. Did the repair probably 5k miles ago :/

[Koenig]

Originally Posted by chimmike MOTHERFUCK. I did the repair myself, and just hit 70k miles. Did the repair probably 5k miles ago :/

I didn't see if anyone posted yet... but if you can get receipts for doing the repair with proof of mileage, they will still refund you since it was before the 70K, as long as you can show it was fixed before then.


This seriously pisses me off and I wish they would make it a RECALL and not a TSB with warranty extension.

I had previously tried TWICE with 2 different dealers regarding the smoking, when I'd drop it off, and they told me it never smoked. This was between 40k-50k before my "regular" warranty was up. It just started recently smoking again (I think one of my seals finally blew) but I'm about 100 miles off from 99k miles, so there's nothing I can do, except out of my own pocket

[BobbleHead]

@Raider

thanks for checking. I don't have VVT rattle on cold starts but occasionally I have smoke from my exhaust. Although it hasn't since i got my AP.

[RidenDirty]

So excited about this cause I dont have to come out of pocket the $1k I was told it would cost me and I get a new turbo too....double win!!! And all this because Mazda is too cheap to put in a $5 tensioner in the design.

Originally Posted by black07spd @Raider thanks for checking. I don't have VVT rattle on cold starts but occasionally I have smoke from my exhaust. Although it hasn't since i got my AP.

Take your oil cap off and reach in and see if your timing chain is loose..thats how we found mine, I dont have noise yet but the chain is noticeably loose it could start making noises at any time.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by RidenDirty So excited about this cause I dont have to come out of pocket the $1k I was told it would cost me and I get a new turbo too....double win!!! And all this because Mazda is too cheap to put in a $5 tensioner in the design. Take your oil cap off and reach in and see if your timing chain is loose..thats how we found mine, I dont have noise yet but the chain is noticeably loose it could start making noises at any time.

What's this 5 dollar tensioner of which you speak?
And checking the chain for slack needs to be done with the engine at operating temp.
The chain tensioner is oil pressure actuated.
No oil pressure, no tension.

[timjs]

Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now.


It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags..

Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way.
It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage.

Originally Posted by Tokay444 What's this 5 dollar tensioner of which you speak? And checking the chain for slack needs to be done with the engine at operating temp. The chain tensioner is oil pressure actuated. No oil pressure, no tension.

He might be talking about a little chain guide that most engines have between the cam gears. One could easily be bolted to the oil control valve and keep the timing chain from slapping the valve cover.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by timjs Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now. It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags.. Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way. It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage.

My issue is that this chain problem happens stock or modded, and really needs to have a longer coverage period, as most have surpassed that extension. Obviously Mazda knows this, and is just making sure that they do not have to cover the majority of the cars.

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by timjs Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now. It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags.. Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way. It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage. He might be talking about a little chain guide that most engines have between the cam gears. One could easily be bolted to the oil control valve and keep the timing chain from slapping the valve cover.

It's funny that people even stock out. Most dealerships have no problem turning a blind eye towards most mods. They want the freebie work to hit their gross labor. They could give two shits less. An inspector is not going to come out especially over a car with a recently updated warranty extension. They have more important things to do. (I service write for a Nissan Dealership)

[Raider]

Originally Posted by RidenDirty So excited about this cause I dont have to come out of pocket the $1k I was told it would cost me and I get a new turbo too....double win!!! And all this because Mazda is too cheap to put in a $5 tensioner in the design.

Actually, the VVT comes out of adjustment, causing the problem. It is not just a loose chain issue.

And for anyone over 70K, you are SOL, period. Got it fixed or reported before then to the dealer? You have a chance. Otherwise...

[tjamison]

I'm going to get my 07 MS3 to the local (45 minutes away) Mazda dealer early next week. The VVT is obvious, but I hope they don't give me too much hassle on the smoke - It's not as bad as some I've seen, but worse than most. I bought the car a month ago, so I don't have a stack of service receipts. I'm interested if they'll give it the ventilation kit or turbo. Funny that I got an aftermarket warranty, but won't even have to use it on these major items. I'm sure something worthy will come up in the next 45K miles.

[All2envyMS3]

Originally Posted by tjamison I'm going to get my 07 MS3 to the local (45 minutes away) Mazda dealer early next week. The VVT is obvious, but I hope they don't give me too much hassle on the smoke - It's not as bad as some I've seen, but worse than most. I bought the car a month ago, so I don't have a stack of service receipts. I'm interested if they'll give it the ventilation kit or turbo. Funny that I got an aftermarket warranty, but won't even have to use it on these major items. I'm sure something worthy will come up in the next 45K miles.

I'm in the same boat...(extended warrenty 50 deductible) I have had that loud start up noise just like in the vid posted. And my turbo has smoked every now and again since oct.
Question, Got the car may of last year with 45k miles on it. Changed the oil at 49k with a receipt. then at 54k miles I did a oil change my friends house, with the required oil weight. Rotella 5-40
Will they hassle me for not being able to prove that oil change?

[boostedms3]

i got an 08.5 with 76k, no luck for me???

anywayz im going to dealership 2moro, fuck them im wanna quick smoking!!!

[thomas_cory2000]

FML...I think I had mine done @ like 71k miles, I'll have to check my pp work.

[atvfreek]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes it says produced from XX not sold on XX. thats why it has your build date on the door sticker right?

The affected vehicles are tracked by build date, but the warranty is in effect from the warranty start date, which is the date it was sold and left the lot.

Tappin

[Raider]

The ventilation kit is as useful as a gallon of gas in the tank. It makes no difference, IMO.

Go get an OCC after they replace the turbo. Collect the shit before it fucks the turbo up.

The VVT is shit, and needs a real recall or something. A bullshit extension like that is a slap in the face. 6/100K is logical to the consumer, but hurts their bottom line.

And @timjs, calling someone getting an obvious defect fixed is not a freeloader. In fact, it is probably @RidenDirty's MS6 he bought used and has all those problems. Bet you work at Mazda City. That is where the Regional Dickhead Manager said the turbo turning glowing orange during normal driving, as well as smoke out the pipe after turbo replacement, was normal.

[timjs]

Originally Posted by Raider The ventilation kit is as useful as a gallon of gas in the tank. It makes no difference, IMO. Go get an OCC after they replace the turbo. Collect the shit before it fucks the turbo up. The VVT is shit, and needs a real recall or something. A bullshit extension like that is a slap in the face. 6/100K is logical to the consumer, but hurts their bottom line. And @timjs, calling someone getting an obvious defect fixed is not a freeloader. In fact, it is probably @RidenDirty's MS6 he bought used and has all those problems. Bet you work at Mazda City. That is where the Regional Dickhead Manager said the turbo turning glowing orange during normal driving, as well as smoke out the pipe after turbo replacement, was normal.

What?
It's funny how people on this forum can talk like an asshole yet get offended over the word freeloader. Chill out dude, grow thicker skin.

I have no comments about the regional manager, sir.

[Raider]

I'm far from offended. Trust me it takes a lot to offend me.

I've been to Mazda City and seen the work you guys do. Just fix Gene's car so it wont blow up ok?

[timjs]

Oh, wait wait now I'm not referring to Gene. He is a good guy, hence why we got him in there soon so he doesn't have to wait in line to get a new chain.
We have several chains lined up at the moment.

No offence to Gene at all, I just want to make that clear.

And don't worry, I've done enough of these damn chains to write a book about it.

I am interested in what experiences you have had at the dealer though.
I can't help but to assume it was something that went wrong dealing with our old service manager. We have a new manager, and he's a really good guy. He even drives a Speed3 himself, and is looking to mod it.

If you wouldn't mind telling me what bad experiences you've seen or had, please PM me. If not, that's cool. I understand a lot of people were turned off of our dealer due to the management. If it was a technician related thing, it would be nice to not put anyone's name out there.

[Raider]

CX-7 had turbo replaced in Orlando. On way home, got gas, smelled burning. Popped hood, turbo was glowing neon orange after sitting for a few minutes. Took it to you guys, and according to the sniffer, all is well, so you refused to inspect the downpipe for any blockage, even though the O2 was replaced due to it being oil coated, and smoke still being visible at idle. Regional Disckhead Manager threatened to void my powertrain over the "pop off valve"

Still get some smoke after idling a while, 40K miles later. Oil Catch Can was completely full when drained this weekend. Yeah. Fuck the Mazda PCV.

[timjs]

Originally Posted by Raider CX-7 had turbo replaced in Orlando. On way home, got gas, smelled burning. Popped hood, turbo was glowing neon orange after sitting for a few minutes. Took it to you guys, and according to the sniffer, all is well, so you refused to inspect the downpipe for any blockage, even though the O2 was replaced due to it being oil coated, and smoke still being visible at idle. Regional Disckhead Manager threatened to void my powertrain over the "pop off valve" Still get some smoke after idling a while, 40K miles later. Oil Catch Can was completely full when drained this weekend. Yeah. Fuck the Mazda PCV.

When was this if I may ask?

And yes, the PCV system sucks. I had the smoking problem BAD on my speed6...an oil restrictor bolt fixed mine. (I honestly believe the turbo is WAY over oiled, but everyone here knows that).

Once again, I can't comment on our DSM because I do not know who above me trolls this site.

[Tokay444]

I had a technician adamantly tell me our turbos were NOT water cooled.