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chuckms6 12-06-2012 04:33 PM

Timing chain/VVT replacement parts list
 
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Made this thread per @Raider; request, in order to help future searchers.

Firstly, in order to properly time the engine you will need the timing plate and peg for the 2.3 disi mzr. you can buy one. i purchased this one since it was the best bang for my buck and i know i will use it more than once.
@Pseudonym; found this kit which is complete and reasonably priced.

In order to do the timing chain you will need the following parts

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1354836570

to do the vvt you will need to add the following parts

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1354836570

the parts with part numbers need to be replaced. they are one use, torque to yield items, but cannot be found in the diagrams, so you will need to search the part numbers.

pzr2874 12-06-2012 05:23 PM

I know this is in 3/6 land, but the parts are identical for the 6 and Gen1 3?

Meaning, these parts are for both models?

BigRedSpecial 12-06-2012 05:38 PM

Thanks for this; may come in handy in the future.

chuckms6 12-06-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pzr2874 (Post 1778167)
I know this is in 3/6 land, but the parts are identical for the 6 and Gen1 3?

Meaning, these parts are for both models?

Yes. These parts are interchangeable.

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Raider 12-06-2012 08:48 PM

Stuck!

TiGraySpeed6 12-07-2012 06:03 AM

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I just picked up my Speed6 yesterday from a TC/VVT job. Thought I'd add an actual invoice just to verify the list above. There are a few extra things on here that don't need to be part of a core do it yourself kit.


http://stable-networks.com/ms6r/imag...-vvt-parts.jpg

pzr2874 12-07-2012 10:30 AM

how the shit did u pull that off on warranty?

TiGraySpeed6 12-07-2012 10:35 AM

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SSP87 baby! Gotta love it!

MS6 Sanchez 12-28-2012 11:58 AM

"7 years or 70,000, which ever comes first"
Fuck i'm at 78xxx

mxlplx71 12-28-2012 01:00 PM

guess ill stock out if i start gettn the rattles

chuckms6 12-28-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mxlplx71 (Post 1811208)
guess ill stock out if i start gettn the rattles

No reason, it's regular maintenance. Not expensive or hard to do yourself. Took me 4 hours dicking around. Probably could do it in two.

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mxlplx71 12-28-2012 09:23 PM

still 3-400$$

chuckms6 12-28-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mxlplx71 (Post 1812014)
still 3-400$$

If you think that's too much to maintain a car you should be riding a bike. You can't even get tires for less than that.

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mxlplx71 12-29-2012 06:21 AM

if I can get it done for free its just stupid not to.

ericrapp0507@gmail.com 12-29-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mxlplx71 (Post 1812199)
if I can get it done for free its just stupid not to.

Called my dealership last fall before i put the car up. I am at 74k. They said they would prorate the job. They all know my car has seen the track and was modded day two.
The chain is very loose and i wont drive again till thats sorted.
Maybe i will do it myself when my buddy gets home in spring.
But like you say. because i have the bulletin on my fridge, if i can get done for free why wouldn't I ?:thinking:

MS6 Sanchez 12-31-2012 07:24 PM

Who wants to help me fix my shit? I'm near Des Plaines, IL... I'm a retard when it comes to mechanical things

TiGraySpeed6 12-31-2012 08:23 PM

Is there a NATOR for IL? That's the group you wanna get beer for to be sure

MS6 Sanchez 12-31-2012 09:54 PM

Yea there is! Haha just thought this was the appropriate thread

Stealthvr4 01-11-2013 01:06 PM

Where did you purchase these parts?

Raider 01-11-2013 01:23 PM

/there is a guy in VIP we go through.

dshrek 01-24-2013 11:30 PM

I just placed an order. Thanks for the list. It was super easy to follow. My local dealership confirmed that my VVT and timing chain are bad and said that they have never done one for under $1,200.

I was also told that they can not pro rate for warranty work since I have 84xxx miles.

kneedraggin101 01-24-2013 11:46 PM

Have to get this done for a buddy of mine... So thanks for the list

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Funkster777 01-25-2013 03:12 PM

Just picked mine up today. $1349.71. No chance to wait to do it later.

Thoffman26 02-26-2013 10:39 AM


What do you guys think of this sound? vvt? i just bought the car, first mazda. I come from diesels so hearing this out of a car just doesnt sound right to me. watcha think?

Funkster777 02-26-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thoffman26 (Post 1917014)
Mazdaspeed6 engine knock - YouTube

What do you guys think of this sound? vvt? i just bought the car, first mazda. I come from diesels so hearing this out of a car just doesnt sound right to me. watcha think?

You're fucked. I hope you have a lot of cash. It is the VVT. I hope you have a warranty where you bought it.

chuckms6 02-26-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoffman26 (Post 1917014)
Mazdaspeed6 engine knock - YouTube

What do you guys think of this sound? vvt? i just bought the car, first mazda. I come from diesels so hearing this out of a car just doesnt sound right to me. watcha think?

That's a lot heavier sound than vvt. sounds more like rod knock. vvt or timing chain is a tick. It may get that loud during a cold start but it goes away very quickly.

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Thoffman26 03-05-2013 10:15 AM

haha it was the vvt, i got it replaced last week. no warenty im at 120k

twincitySPEED6 03-15-2013 12:31 AM

Thanks for the list. I've put about a good 40 hrs of tool time on my buddies msp I think it's time to repay it

Pseudonym 03-16-2013 01:25 AM

what website is the op screenshot from?

Pseudonym 03-17-2013 08:18 PM

does this look complete?

chuckms6 03-17-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonym (Post 1951278)
what website is the op screenshot from?

Onlinemazdaparts.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonym (Post 1953666)
does this look complete?

Sure does, that's a good find. I'll have to update the op with that kit, thanks!

TiGraySpeed6 03-18-2013 06:45 AM

I think I'd pick up a new chain tensioner as well, but otherwise the kit does seem complete- nice find!

mrQQ 04-01-2013 02:07 AM

I'd so prefer my buy list to get shorter than longer lol

Rainmens 04-17-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonym (Post 1953666)
does this look complete?

Isnt this kit $50 more than if you piece it to together AND missing the tensioner?

chuckms6 04-17-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainmens (Post 2010835)
Isnt this kit $50 more than if you piece it to together AND missing the tensioner?

Idk, I don't think it was that expensive when was originally posted. And yes it is missing the timer.

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Rainmens 04-17-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckms6 (Post 2010870)
Idk, I don't think it was that expensive when was originally posted. And yes it is missing the timer.

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Well either way, its a nice option and thank you very much for youre list.

ArmanRus 05-11-2013 03:29 PM

EDIT: Meant to post this in NATOR WI Boards.

FML. Pulled the valve cover today to investigate the rattle that I hear on part throttle. Timing chain is stretched. Check out the wear marks on the valve cover.

What sucks is that I have a roadtrip next week to New Jersey and we are taking the Speed. Planned on tackling this myself after the road trip with the help of @Opdahl; and his air tools. Should cost around $400.

Now I need to take it in sometime next week to Mazda and they quoted me $650 just for labor.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153301.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153302.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153252.jpg

And the coup d' grace:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153236.jpg

MS6 Sanchez 05-12-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmanRus (Post 2056484)
EDIT: Meant to post this in NATOR WI Boards.

FML. Pulled the valve cover today to investigate the rattle that I hear on part throttle. Timing chain is stretched. Check out the wear marks on the valve cover.

What sucks is that I have a roadtrip next week to New Jersey and we are taking the Speed. Planned on tackling this myself after the road trip with the help of @Opdahl; and his air tools. Should cost around $400.

Now I need to take it in sometime next week to Mazda and they quoted me $650 just for labor.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153301.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153302.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153252.jpg

And the coup d' grace:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...511_153236.jpg

Ill let you borrow my cam alignment tool and top dead center tool

KevMS6 06-10-2013 05:05 PM

Is it best to order these parts from onlinemazdaparts?

ArmanRus 06-10-2013 05:12 PM

Check eBay for complete VVT replacement kits.


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