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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score **********THE OFFICIAL INTAKE/ TURBO INLET PIPE THREAD********** NOTE: This is an informative discussion and a resource for gathering information on which route to go (Short Ram Intake, Cold Air Intake). All-in-all it is up to you on which you decide to go with. Abbreviations used on this sticky: Gen1 MS3---> Mazdaspeed 3: 2006-2009 Gen2 MS3---> Mazdaspeed 3: 2010+ Difference between SRI and CAI: According to research and discussions there are inherent pros and cons of both intake systems, but the main difference between a short ram intake and a cold air intake is where the intake gets its air from. A short ram intake sits and the engine bay where the air temps are warmer due to the heat the engine produces while a cold air intake sits away from the engine bay, usually in the front fender where it can suck in cooler air from the outside. Sucking in cool air is important because cool air is denser than warm air, which means cool air molecules are closer together, so more air can fit into a given amount of space. An engine creates power by mixing and compressing air and fuel. The more air you can fit into a cylinder at one time, the bigger explosion you can create which in turn creates more horsepower. NOTE: I've decided to list the filter covers first because I noticed that people have expressed concerns about water penetrating their engines with the cold air intake systems. First, it is HIGHLY unlikely that this will ever be a problem. Rain and water droplets are no problem. The only case that could be a potential threat is if you drove into an extremely deep puddle, submerging the intake head. The car would have to be in the water so that the intake was submerged, and then it would start sucking up water, making your engine hydro-lock. Intake Kits and Battery Trays Intake Kits: SRI, TIP, CAI Battery Trays to accommodate wide Intake Kits ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intake Kits: SRI, TIP, CAI CAI Cold air is denser than hot air, and will ultimately have more power producing potential. Cold air induction (CAI) provides colder air than SRI / TIPs and can provide 12% more power and torque, but experiences pressure drops associated with the longer tubes used and are prone to easily hydro-locking in deep puddles (MSF wiki). Therefore, SRI / TIPs with air-box are the preferred option. Use a filter cover (CP-E, Outerwears. AMSoil) and / or splash shield (CP-E, Sure) if you are concerned about rain and water droplets, but they will not prevent hydro-lock if your intake is submerged. SRI / TIP Points to consider when improving the intake airflow are the future needs, such as BT for the K04 will most likely fail at some point. Although some members progress through different BTs, perhaps choosing a three inch intake initially will prevent having to replace it again later. The only problem with this course of action is that a MAF calibration must be done, which requires an ECU re-flash. See the “Larger than stock MAF housing” calculation below installation time in this section. TIPs can flow 14% more, but are usually limited by the SRI. The main advantages to TIPs are the reduction of backwash turbulences away from the MAF housing from the blow-by valve and PCV. However, SRI / TIPs allow the turbo to spike more easily. (Cobb) Note that with no other changes, tilting the MAF more than the OEM 15 degrees causes over fuelling with the ECU removing fuel through large negative LTFT and you exceed your previous g/s readings during WOT. MAF recalibration is strongly recommended. Larger than stock MAF housing offers larger cross section for more airflow, but has less cooling to the MAF resistors due to the decreased air velocity. In order to develop a scalar for a larger than stock intake diameter, you must take the (New MAF Cross-Sectional Area) and divide (/) it by the (Stock MAF Cross Sectional Area), which is technically pi * radius squared (Djuosnteisn), but you can actually just take the new diameter squared / old diameter squared (ms3blackmica). Say you decide to upgrade to a 3" intake (76.2mm). The stock MAF housing is 66.5mm diameter (2.61811"). (76.2^2) / (66.5^2) = 1.313 Take 1.313 and multiply it by the entire MAF curve. Now you are ready to start your MAF Calibration. This is only an example for a 3" intake. (ms3blackmica) CorkSport TIP Power Series III 3” SRI / TIP with velocity stack and AEM dry air filter: “impressive improvement in power” with 35% more air flow; CorkSport Stage II Power Series SRI / TIP; 33 more HP and 25 lbs more torque from 14% more airflow with billet aluminium air straightener to prevent air leaks and CELs from inaccurate readings and dry air filter; CorkSport Power Series I SRI: 12 more HP, 17 more lbs torque with air straightener and dry air filter; relocated valve cover breather tube to prevent Genwon smoking turbo (rfinkle2). Available from: CorkSport TIP MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $115.99 Standard Vent Breather Hose or Mazda Service Bulletin Fix 01-002/11; Polished or Powder Coated Black; Black, Red or Blue Silicone; Polished or Black Clamps CorkSport SRI Available from: MS6 CorkSport SRI MS6 MS3 CorkSport SRI MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $179.99 Black, Red, Blue or White Silicon Tubing; Black, Red (+$5) or Blue MAF (+$5); Blue, Red or Black Filter, Polished or Black Clamp HTP 3" TIP T6061, black powder coat, recirculation hose delete option with BOV, reducer size options, some require optional smaller HTP battery tray Available from: HTP 3" TIP MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) and Gen2 (Yes) $125 polished ($140 for black powder coated version) + optional: mounting bracket $10 + couplers $0 to $5 (2”, 2.25”, 3”, 4”), VTA $10, elbow $0 to $24 + shipping Cobb SRI MS6 MS3 11 HP gain, 16 lb-ft gain, removes pre-turbo restriction, optimises flow, minimizes turbulence, velocity stack, air flow straightener, conical cloth air filter, possibly CARB certified, reduces heat transfer; Cobb Turbo Inlet Hose: taper design to smooth airflow, silicone rejects high engine bay temperatures; steel wire reinforced to prevent collapsing. RMM replacement is recommended to avoid breaking the intake bracket. Available from: MS6 Cobb SRI MS6 MS3 Cobb SRI MS3 MS6 (Yes) $150, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $195 Cobb TIP Available from: Cobb TIP MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $180 James Barone Racing (JBR) DISI TIP (Stage I SRI, Stage II SRI / TIP, Stage III CAI) or Wide Path (3” tube 59% up to 3.5” 41% for 4” turbo inlet, but then requires a small battery box (JBR 51R) (Black, Blue, Red, White); or stock 2.25” turbo inlet) 5-ply, wire reinforced silicon. The TIP reduces turbulence seen in the OEM factory accordion rubber hose version and can flow to 300 g/s on stock K04 turbo. SS T-Bolt Clamps, plug to run in non-recirc mode; James Barone Racing (JBR) Filter: soap and water washable dry filter (avoids over oiling) can flow 200% more air than OEM while providing superior engine protection capable of removing extremely fine particles down to < 0.1 micron; developed with K&N (similar to CorkSport and Cobb) Available from: MS6 JBR TIP MS6 MS3 JBR TIP MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $165 Silicone: Black, Blue, Red JBR SRI Available from: MS6 JBR SRI MS6 MS3 JBR SRI MS3 MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $170 MAF / Filter: Black, Blue, Red; Silicone: adds White JBR Dry Filter Wrap Available from: JBR Dry Filter Wrap MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $25 Black, Red, Blue JBR Tru-3.0 Wide Path Full Aluminium / Silicone Intake Aluminium Silicone Available from: Aluminium JBR Tru-3.0 Wide Path Full Aluminium Intake Silicone JBR Tru-3.0 Wide Path Full Silicone Intake MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $285 TIP: 2.25” Stock, 2.5” BNR, 3” (aluminium only), 4” GT; Silicone: Red, Blue, Black, White; Filter: Blue, Red or Black HTP 3.5" Full Intake Available from: HTP 3.5" Full Intake MS6 (Yes) $414.75 for 51R battery or $435.70 small battery, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $275 stock battery or $432.92 for 51R battery; Coupler: 2.25”, 2.5”, 3”, 3.5”; Air Straightener included; VTA $10; Pre-Filter $30; Air Filter: Red or Black HTP 3” SRI MAF Housing Available from: HTP 3” SRI MAF Housing MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $154 polished aluminium, +$10 black powder coated; Elbow: 3” standard, 2.5” +$10; Air Filter: Red or Black; Pre-Filter $30 CP-E Nano SRI See CP-E nViscid below Available from: CP-E Nano SRI MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $223.60 Silver or Black; Filter: DFlow or SynoilD; Pre-Filter: $16.10 K&N Typhoon SRI 24 HP, mandrel bent aluminium induction tube with heat shield, Million Mile limited warranty Available from: K&N Typhoon SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $696.18 Red Filter CorkSport Airbox MS6 MS3 for Cobb SRI MS3 Gen2 Available from: MS6 CorkSport Airbox MS6 MS3 for Cobb SRI CorkSport Airbox MS3 for Cobb SRI MS3 Gen2 CorkSport Airbox MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) $98.99, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $99.99 JBR Tru-3.5 Wide Path Full Aluminium / Silicone Intake Aluminium Silicone Available from: Aluminium JBR Tru-3.5 Wide Path Full Aluminium Intake Silicone JBR Tru-3.5 Wide Path Full Silicone Intake MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $295 TIP: 2.25” Stock, 2.5” BNR, 3” (aluminium only), 4” GT; Silicone: Red, Blue, Black, White; Filter: Black only CP-E nViscid TIP (Nano is OEM size and does not require a MAF calibration, but xcelXL is for BT and does): low-restriction design and silicon’s thermal insulation properties, 3-inch cross-sectional flow area throughout. Silicon is 1000 times more heat reflective than aluminium and being steel wire re-enforced, it prevents collapsing under vacuum Available from: K04 CP-E nViscid TIP for K04 BT CP-E nViscid TIP for BT MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $218.40 for K04 or $234 for BT CorkSport Stage III CAI 10-12% increase in power and torque. enables your engine to take in larger volumes of cold air for better acceleration, includes a one piece of billet aluminium MAF housing with included air straightener to prevent CELs, cleanable dry flow air filter, silicone connectors, T-bolt clamps, mandrel bent aluminium piping, optional TIP Available from: CorkSport Stage III CAI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $279.99 with TIP +$70; Silicone, MAF and Filter: Black, Red or Blue; Pipe: Polished or Black Powder; Clamp: Polished or Black; Injen CAI 15 HP gain, cast multi-stage tuned mid-section for “volumized” airflow throughout the entire power band. The SP Series tuned intake system uses MR technology for optimal gains and safe AFRs. Available from: Injen CAI MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) $293.03 Polished or Black Cobb Airbox MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen 2 Available from: MS3 Gen1 Cobb Airbox 3 Gen 1 MS3 Gen2 Cobb Airbox 3 Gen 2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $199, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $289 AEM CAI Gunmetal Info: AEM Cold Air Intake Systems - Performance Air Intakes and Air Filters Lightweight aircraft 6061 aluminium, mandrel bent, reinforced TIG-welded brackets, complete hardware kit with soft mounts for a guaranteed perfect fit, AEM’s lifetime DRYFLOW Synthetic air filter is 99.4% efficient, filters to one micron, and never needs filter oil, available powder-coated in red, blue or silver, or with a mirror-polished finish, guaranteed for life Available from: AEM CAI Gunmetal MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $293.99 HKS Racing Suction Reloaded Short Ram Intake SRI Info: HKS USA Noticeably louder than stock, quicker spool time, polished intake piping, but must change the air filter every 5,000 miles Available from: HKS Racing Suction Reloaded Short Ram Intake SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $338.50 ATP 3" MAF Housing Billet Aluminium for DENSO Element Info: ATP TURBO Attached directly to the turbo compressor inlet nozzle, which is often the bottleneck of the entire intake system. The OEM provides a pinched and convoluted air path. Specify Garrett 4" inlet or stock turbo 2" inlet, Specify colour: black, red or blue silicone connectors Available from: ATP 3" MAF Housing Billet Aluminium for DENSO Element MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) $95 ATP Turbo SRI High flow inlet extension including 3" billet aluminium MAF housing, 3" inlet elbow, and 3" open element filter. Bolts onto ATP 3" inlet pipe kit (TIP) to complete a true high flow 3" intake tract. Deletes the restrictive factory air-box and clears the area inside the driver side fender and headlight area to run FMIC pipes in and out. Specify colour: black, red, or blue silicone connectors Available from: ATP Turbo SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $185 in Black, Blue or Red JBR Power Path Stage III CAI 14% HP and torque, capable if reducing intake air temperatures up to 15 degrees by drawing cool, fresh, oxygen rich air from deep inside the fender well area, far away from the heat of the engine, mandrel bent, 6061 polished aluminium tube & MAF housing with air straightener, reinforced silicone elbow, SS T-Bolt Clamps, Dry-Flow air filter flows 200% more air, no CELs guarantee Available from: JBR Power Path Stage III CAI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $280 MAF / Filter: Black, Blue or Red; Silicone / TIP: plus White CP-E Xcel CAI MS6 MS3 CNC machined aluminium MAF housing with airflow straightener improves sensor precision Available from: MS6 CP-E Xcel CAI MS6 MS3 CP-E Xcel CAI MS3 MS6 (Yes) $310.96 Silver or Black: Filter: DFlow or SynoilD; Pre-Filter: $16.10, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $269.95 JFB SRI Available from: can anyone assist with this one? @freakms3; ? MS6 (), MS3 Gen1 (), MS3 Gen2 () $? Injen SRI Gain15 HP and 24lb torque with filter heat shield and a web nano-fibre dry filter Available from: Injen SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $243.20 Polished or Black Ultimate Racing SRI 12 WHP, 3.42 ft-lbs torque, high flow cone filter, MAF housing only Available from: Ultimate Racing SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $150 + optional Black powder coating Weapon Secret R SRI Includes heat shield, laminar flow feeds 3X more air than conventional system, 6061 Aluminium on automated CNC mandrel bender and polished, SW1 Air filter features a tuned velocity stack to increase velocity and decrease turbulence, 1 Million Mile Limited Warranty open pore high density re-usable foam Available from: Weapon Secret R SRI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $320 Takeda CAI Designed to place the air filter in the prime location to produce horsepower and torque gains, polished aluminium tube Available from: Takeda CAI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $280.50 TurboXS CAI Mandrel bent 3” diameter aluminium pipes and a custom CNC machined aluminium MAF Sensor Housing, reduces the intake restriction caused by the stock air-box Available from: TurboXS CAI MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) $309 DC Sports CAI MS6 MS3 Info: DC Sports: Cold Air Intake System CAI4101 for Mazda Washable dry filter (to one micron), funnel top and velocity stack, SS mesh Available from: Amazon, eBay MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $144.83 Fujita CAI Polished 6061 T6 aluminium intake tubing, silicone hose with nomex, carbon plated t-bolt clamps, Fujita super flow high performance air filter, TIG welded brackets, vibration mounts, Fujita duffel bag, Fujita hat, NOS energy drinkInfo: FUJITA EUROPE - Air Intake Available from: Amazon, eBay MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $215.97 Custom Airbox Temperature drop observed making possible a delay in the FMIC decision Instructions located at: MS3 normal progression of modifications (stages) MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) <$10 for aluminium sheet Freek Tunes 3.5” (It’s new, but popularity is expected to rise @jdmadge_mx5; ) AEM dry filter Available from: Freek Tunes 3.5” MS6 (Yes), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $299 Coupler: K04, BNR S3, 3”, 4” DIY Alternative to ATP Spectre Air Filter Available from: Spectre 3” MAF Available from: Gen2 $29.99 Boesch 3” (76mm) to 2.5” (63mm) Silicone Reducer Available from: Gen2 $25 + $8 shipping MAF Honeycomb Insert Available from: Honeycomb insert (5:1 shown) order the 6:1 ratio $12.67 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Battery Trays to accommodate wide Intake Kits JBR 51R Small Battery Tray MS6 MS3 Available from: MS6 JBR 51R Small Battery Tray MS6 MS3 JBR 51R Small Battery Tray MS3 MS6 (Yes) $95, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $120 HTP Small Battery Tray MS6 MS3 Available from: MS6 HTP Small Battery Tray MS6 MS3 HTP Small Battery Tray MS3 MS6 (Yes) $158.60 + Black Wrinkled Powder Coat $10, MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $145
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