FULL RACE MANIFOLDS!!!!!

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Hey guys, the Full Race MZR DISI exhaust manifolds are now available for PRE ORDER for a few weeks out!

Here's a link to Full Race's site. Pricing is same as Full Race at this point. We'll post up more info as we get it.

Mazdaspeed Prostock Turbo Manifold ( 2.3 DISI MZR ) - Full-Race.com

[maisonvi]

damn that is nice looking.

[uncorked11]

Very nice looking mani.

[Easter Bunny]

Great news that you will be stocking these, should make for easier purchasing for everyone

[WVDPS643]

Oh its so magnificent! Price?

Nevermind on the price. Found it.

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by WVDPS643 Oh its so magnificent! Price?

MSRP is $1099, but we'll offer them at $899 as an intro price. Not sure how long Full Race will let that price last. They have LIFETIME WARRANTIES!! If you know anything about Full Race, you know they make awesome manifolds.

[ccspeed3]

I'll be getting one for sure

[Alpha]

The quality, materials, engineering, and craftsmanship put into these manifolds is second to none... Now being able to get them through a great vendor is just icing on the cake!

Cheers JP!

[Proshop]

Pure sex!!!! Great add to your line upto guys.

[ZPrice]

Good looking EM, looked on the site, no price break thru EDGE? Do they have some details on materials of contruction? Quite a bit more than RB EM but we need some more details.

Z

[ZPrice]

Originally Posted by Alpha $899 IS a price break for a manifold of this quality. You can't compare this product to RB... This is a robotically TIG'd piece with a lifetime warranty. Ask RB if they'll give you a lifetime warranty against cracking and see what they say. End of story. Two cheaper/cracked manifolds are more expensive than one FR manifold.

I ask the question as Edge usually has been less than the manufacturers number for the components I have purchased lately.

Since you chimed in then please answer the other questions concerning MOC. I also have not seen TIG welding performed by an automatic for pipe bores this small and especially on the flange to pipe welds but there are several processes I have not personally seen.

You are correct I cannot compare the two as I don't have both EMs sitting in front of me for simple visual inspection of the welds. My only comment was to the cost not the quality but thanks for your insight.

JP how long do anticipate the offering to be, I have a couple of large ticket items this week and next.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by Alpha $899 IS a price break for a manifold of this quality. You can't compare this product to RB, DNP, or any other tubular option... This is a robotically TIG'd piece with a lifetime warranty. Ask RB if they'll give you a lifetime warranty against cracking and see what they say. End of story. Two cheaper/cracked manifolds are more expensive than one FR manifold.

RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by IshiKage RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

o shit.............


RB >> FR if both have a lifetime warranty. i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

This is going to be done very soon

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why. i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

Saying "A manifold is a manifold" is almost as ridiculous as saying" A turbo's a turbo."

I can guarantee you that nobody's put as much research, analysis, nor engineering in designing a manifold as Full Race has here...

Originally Posted by superskaterxes o shit............. RB >> FR if both have a lifetime warranty. i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

You've got budget modders and you've got modders that simply want the best, once and done. To each their own, as always.

Originally Posted by IshiKage RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

I'm not bashing RB, I'm just supporting Full Race because of their hard earned track record. After all, it's that track record and the amount of satisfied customers over the years that REALLY makes gives their warranty it's value.

I haven't seen enough RB products go through the paces to say, but the best warrantied parts are those that never have to use it...

I've had plenty of warrantied parts break and need replacement over the years building cars and all the headaches of removal, reinstallation, and downtime could've been easily and GLADLY avoided had I chose to pay the premium for a superior part initially.

[TRSpeed]

Nice!

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[SleeperHatch]

Wow super nice with a price that might send me another way

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[EdgeAutosport.com]

So the real question is, who is ready to order one?

[i8urgti]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport So the real question is, who is ready to order one?

not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by i8urgti not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

This manifold mated to an ATP GTX and a Full Race DP (Which is coming soon and superior to what most have now) would make for one HELL of a setup!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by i8urgti not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

This is very doable. Looks like I will slap the t3 version of this manifold on here very soon

[Enki]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport This is very doable. Looks like I will slap the t3 version of this manifold on here very soon

I was just wondering about that; if this mani would work with the new EFR coming out or not. Guess that answers that!

[Enki]

Very tempted. They aren't ceramic coated, are they?

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Enki Very tempted. They aren't ceramic coated, are they?

Every other manifold that FR has made comes with more than one coating option, so I'm sure these will be no different.

[doubleflusher]

T3 option?

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher T3 option?

Look at the second manifold in the picture. That flange isnt tapered like the k04 its blocked like a t3 wouldd be, plus runner #3 looks different. It may not be offered yet but my eyes dont deceive me

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport Look at the second manifold in the picture. That flange isnt tapered like the k04 its blocked like a t3 wouldd be, plus runner #3 looks different. It may not be offered yet but my eyes dont deceive me

That's a T25 flange for the 6258, 6758, and 7163 EFR turbos my good man.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Alpha That's a T25 EFR flange my good man.

thanks for the clarification. hmmmmm custom t3 option in the works? lol

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by ZPrice Since you chimed in then please answer the other questions concerning MOC. I also have not seen TIG welding performed by an automatic for pipe bores this small and especially on the flange to pipe welds but there are several processes I have not personally seen.

From what i've been told, FR uses a much different shielding gas mix than most people do (most traditionally use 100% argon, or slight mix with helium. I think FR uses significantly more helium or some other mix). The modified mix gives their welds much better penetration and heat control, but is quite a bit more dangerous. Because of that, i think they're actually required to use cnc tig welders, rather than welding by hand.

But i'm sure the finish welds, like collector to turbo flange, and runners to head flange are done by a human. At least most likely.

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by doubleflusher T3 option?

Yes this will be available but not sure about when/details.

Edit: T25 for EFR kits will be the only alternate flange as of now.

@doubleflusher

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by JP@edgeautosport.com Yes this will be available but not sure about when/details.

Correction, looks like the T25 flange for the EFR kit will be the only alternate flange option for now.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

What size piping is used on the runners? Am I the only one that thinks it looks small?

[superskaterxes]

this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why.

i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why. i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right?

But isn't a manifold just a manifold?

You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right?

It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms.


And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing!

I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

Couldnt have said it better.

If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us.

I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

Because in all reality im going to win, I have a huge cock.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf Couldnt have said it better. If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us. I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Alpha If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

This I know because all of the twinscroll EFR's are t4.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

your argument is fair but scotts mani in stock form (no bells) is closer to 600. the reason i would buy his is because some of the profit is going towards him and he has put the time and effort into this platform and deserves some back.

not to say your design wouldent be as good or better but its the same thing with the CPE injector seals. PTP had identical designs but i bought the CPE version because i knew i was supporting scott even though they were more expensive.


the point here is the FR manifold is not even close to the same price as RB and your not getting anything else except for robotic welds and a name brand. an 11sec DSM and 11sec BMW are tens of thousands of dollars apart but in the end its still an 11 sec pass for both of them. no matter how u slice it there's no justification for this price.


when the midevil manifolds first came out they were 875 and i LAUGHED in their faces about how no one would buy them. aside from the drama that happened with them, no one ever made any more HP with one then they did with a PG/DNP.....

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Why are there no details on this thing? Like what material it's constructed of, tubing wall thickness, tubing diameter, etc..etc....

[dereeek]

very interesting, and nice.