HOW TO GET 400WHP FROM YOUR SPEED 3 (the practical way)

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Hey guys since our cars are developing more and more everyday with great aftermarket support it’s becoming easier to make a reliable, daily driven 400whp Speed. To make this power reliably the two most important things are a solid tune and proper maintenance to your vehicle! I can’t stress this enough guys. To check out you can do on stock internals see this thread.
big turbo stock block thread
Everyone’s results are going to vary due to tunes, dyno’s, hard parts, motor health, weather, and elevation etc.
Now this can be accomplished on just the stock injectors and an upgraded high pressure fuel pump. You will be very close to maxing out anywhere from 390whp-410whp depending on the tune and fuel choice. Please don’t ask if you can use less than 91 octane, the answer is no. Let’s get on to the parts that make this possible! Remember when building a car to this level do it once correctly and you will never have to do it again so don’t skimp on anything! Lol

Hard Parts
• Intake (Big MAF recommended, but not necessary in some cases)
• Big turbo inlet pipe
• Intercooler (Front mount recommended but TMIC will be able to get you there)
• Downpipe ( 3”)
• Catback Exhaust
• Bigger turbo (Choice of turbo varies on everyone’s desires of the drivability of the car)
• Colder spark plugs
• Motor mounts- You are definitely going to need a RMM but the PMM & TMM are something to seriously consider at this power level
• Injector Seals ( These are highly recommended but not necessary. The factory seals will wear over time so it’s better to upgrade before they go bad.)
• Manifold (Recommended but not needed, there are many stock manifold 400whp cars)
• Upgraded boost controller is highly recommended

Fueling- Don’t be this guy





• HPFP/HPFP Internals

Tuning

• Cobb AccessPort or Versa Tune (do yourself a favor and spend a few hundred bucks to have an experienced tuner tune your car)

• The tune is very key to all this power and to do it safely and reliably so make sure your tuner knows what’s going on and preferably has a good history with tuning speeds

Turbo

• To make this clear, there is not a best turbo. ANY GT30R turbo will easily get you 400whp including non-GTX versions. If anything, the GTX turbos seem to shine with higher boost levels than with low to medium boost levels. So if you’re planning on 400whp and that’s it, a GTX30R might be too much turbo.

If you want 400whp now and know that later on, you want to take advantage of future advancements in the platform to get even more power, a GTX30R would be great. There’s no right or wrong here. A GT2871R in theory has the ability to get there but the turbo will be pushing harder than a GT30R.

There are too many other variables to discuss. There are tons of ways to get it, but this is the most practical way to get 400whp.

Once you have done all of this hard work go enjoy your monster of a car. Don’t be afraid to drive it either, enjoy all the hard work you did to get it here.

[predapio]

In before, "I listened to you and I can't get traction YO"

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by predapio In before, "I listened to you and I can't get traction YO"

[Noodlesincup]

Awesome info here subbed for future reference


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[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

I know a better way....just sayin'

[8.5MS3]

@eric@edgeautosport

you told me these were necessary as well when we went to get food the other nite

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex I know a better way....just sayin'

This is 400 all day everyday all you have to do is press the gas not rely on a button

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport This is 400 all day everyday all you have to do is press the gas not rely on a button

It'll be set to flip a switch and mash the gas pedal soon enough, come at me bro!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

@8.5MS3


Im already on it

[8.5MS3]

in before gopro vid of tom with leaky NOS tank laughing his ass off for no reason in traffic

[Mortose]

Subbed so i know where to come to find evidence that my need for tires every six months is erics fault.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by 8.5MS3 in before gopro vid of tom with leaky NOS tank laughing his ass off for no reason in traffic

LOL

Thank god I fixed that issue yesterday

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex LOL Thank god I fixed that issue yesterday

how did you fix it? was it just loose?

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport how did you fix it? was it just loose?

Turned out it wasn't the feed line I thought it was, but the adapter that goes between the bottle and line where the gauge is mounted. I just gave it a quick turn and it sealed right up!

[SilverDemon]

I just want to let you know Tom, THAT YOU RUINED ME WITH YOUR STUNT YOU PULLED ON THE DYNO WITH THE GIGGLE GAS!!!!!! You bastard!!

I just got off the phone with Jegs talking to a tech about the best way to run an enrichment fueling system for the N2O set up I am working on

[09Speed3Z]

Must be a slow day at Edge.

Holy shit Eric..

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by SilverDemon I just want to let you know Tom, THAT YOU RUINED ME WITH YOUR STUNT YOU PULLED ON THE DYNO WITH THE GIGGLE GAS!!!!!! You bastard!! I just got off the phone with Jegs talking to a tech about the best way to run an enrichment fueling system for the N2O set up I am working on

My work here is done.








lol

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by 09Speed3Z Must be a slow day at Edge. Holy shit Eric..

[Bucker]

Tom, we need to spread the N2O love. I have guys PMing and emailing left and right asking to get tuned on it now. Seriously.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by Bucker Tom, we need to spread the N2O love. I have guys PMing and emailing left and right asking to get tuned on it now. Seriously.

Or should we get really selfish and be the only 2 badasses on here?! LOL

[SilverDemon]

Not for long bitches... I have some ideas up my sleeve..


Eric, sorry for jacking your thread...the original post is very informational

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by SilverDemon Not for long bitches... I have some ideas up my sleeve.. Eric, sorry for jacking your thread...the original post is very informational

lol no worries guys im also on the n20 Train.


CHOOOOOOOO-CHOOOOOOOO

[JP@edgeautosport.com]

Originally Posted by Bucker Tom, we need to spread the N2O love. I have guys PMing and emailing left and right asking to get tuned on it now. Seriously.

We have NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

[nattun]

Haha jk, nice write up

[dturboman]

but who wants to be practical not me lol

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport Hey guys since our cars are developing more and more everyday with great aftermarket support it’s becoming easier to make a reliable, daily driven 400whp Speed. To make this power reliably the two most important things are a solid tune and proper maintenance to your vehicle! I can’t stress this enough guys. To check out you can do on stock internals see this thread. big turbo stock block thread Everyone’s results are going to vary due to tunes, dyno’s, hard parts, motor health, weather, and elevation etc. Now this can be accomplished on just the stock injectors and an upgraded high pressure fuel pump. You will be very close to maxing out anywhere from 390whp-410whp depending on the tune and fuel choice. Please don’t ask if you can use less than 91 octane, the answer is no. Let’s get on to the parts that make this possible! Remember when building a car to this level do it once correctly and you will never have to do it again so don’t skimp on anything! Lol Hard Parts • Intake (Big MAF recommended, but not necessary in some cases) • Big turbo inlet pipe • Intercooler (Front mount recommended but TMIC will be able to get you there) • Downpipe ( 3”) • Catback Exhaust • Bigger turbo (Choice of turbo varies on everyone’s desires of the drivability of the car) • Colder spark plugs • Motor mounts- You are definitely going to need a RMM but the PMM & TMM are something to seriously consider at this power level • Injector Seals ( These are highly recommended but not necessary. The factory seals will wear over time so it’s better to upgrade before they go bad.) • Manifold (Recommended but not needed, there are many stock manifold 400whp cars) • Upgraded boost controller is highly recommended Fueling- Don’t be this guy • HPFP/HPFP Internals Tuning • Cobb AccessPort or Versa Tune (do yourself a favor and spend a few hundred bucks to have an experienced tuner tune your car) • The tune is very key to all this power and to do it safely and reliably so make sure your tuner knows what’s going on and preferably has a good history with tuning speeds Turbo • To make this clear, there is not a best turbo. ANY GT30R turbo will easily get you 400whp including non-GTX versions. If anything, the GTX turbos seem to shine with higher boost levels than with low to medium boost levels. So if you’re planning on 400whp and that’s it, a GTX30R might be too much turbo. If you want 400whp now and know that later on, you want to take advantage of future advancements in the platform to get even more power, a GTX30R would be great. There’s no right or wrong here. A GT2871R in theory has the ability to get there but the turbo will be pushing harder than a GT30R. There are too many other variables to discuss. There are tons of ways to get it, but this is the most practical way to get 400whp. Once you have done all of this hard work go enjoy your monster of a car. Don’t be afraid to drive it either, enjoy all the hard work you did to get it here.

[captain slow]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport So if you’re planning on 400whp and that’s it, a GTX30R might be too much turbo.

That's like saying if you only want to have sex once a day dating a porn star is too much for you.

You can never have too much turbo.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by captain slow That's like saying if you only want to have sex once a day dating a porn star is too much for you. You can never have too much turbo.

I love the minimum 10 characters stuff

[bmylez]

One thing I noticed you didn't mention was a MAP sensor. So you're saying that, in general, you can hit 400whp with 21.5, maybe 22psi (gt3071/76)?

Also, no mention of meth...has anyone made 400 on 93 oct with just those simple bolt-ons? If someone has, then my car really does suck the biggest donkey nuts on the planet, because I'm getting some KR up top at 20psi and 8.5:1 compression on a BNR stage 3 spraying 25% meth.

Just don't want to get everyone's hopes up.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by bmylez One thing I noticed you didn't mention was a MAP sensor. So you're saying that, in general, you can hit 400whp with 21.5, maybe 22psi (gt3071/76)? Also, no mention of meth...has anyone made 400 on 93 oct with just those simple bolt-ons? If someone has, then my car really does suck the biggest donkey nuts on the planet, because I'm getting some KR up top at 20psi and 8.5:1 compression on a BNR stage 3 spraying 25% meth. Just don't want to get everyone's hopes up.

Ive personally done it without meth with the mods listed above. Stock map sensor is good for 22.95 here at sea level. At 22ish psi you should be in the ball park and as I mentioned results will vary.

[doubleflusher]

I'm here for the pictures.

[supertubesocks]

Originally Posted by bmylez One thing I noticed you didn't mention was a MAP sensor. So you're saying that, in general, you can hit 400whp with 21.5, maybe 22psi (gt3071/76)? Also, no mention of meth...has anyone made 400 on 93 oct with just those simple bolt-ons? If someone has, then my car really does suck the biggest donkey nuts on the planet, because I'm getting some KR up top at 20psi and 8.5:1 compression on a BNR stage 3 spraying 25% meth. Just don't want to get everyone's hopes up.

Something is off in your tune then.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by supertubesocks Something is off in your tune then.

also the bnr stage 3 is working a lot harder at 20psi vs a gtx3071 @20psi.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex It'll be set to flip a switch and mash the gas pedal soon enough, come at me bro!

You forgot this

[Lex]

On a GT30 turbo you'll be in the 400whp neighborhood around the 22-24psi range depending on your setup. This is coincidentally also the limit of the stock fuel system.

You can run more boost and get more torque down low but in terms of hp that's where things are at.

[anavrinIV]

eric, I love you. I've been aiming at 400 with a 3071 on pump gas and basically all the mods you listed. good to know I've had realistic expectations and can hit my goals.

[MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex]

Originally Posted by Deldran You forgot this

Man that's a real knee slapper

[Lex]

I should mention, a 3 Bar MAP sensor and/or a Guardian Angel is a good idea if you don't want to settle for 380hp and 21 - 21.5psi. If you set your boost cut at 22.5psi on the stock sensor and shit hits the fan, it won't save your butt - it is too close to its limit.

[The Panda]

When I get NAWS i want tags that say 2SOONJR....winning.

[knarfies]

at the time i had 2.5bar running 22 psi with stock mani' and stock maf.
made 408hp 409tq

if your going to complain about traction then i suggest you not get a bigger turbo. im not saying, im just sayin.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex Man that's a real knee slapper

i thought u had to have that to use NOS, thats what fast and furious taught me