Product Release! CorkSport Mazdaspeed 3 Aluminum Radiator

[CorkSport]

The 2010-2013 Mazda 3 is known to have a lot of strengths but the OEM radiator is not one of them. The factory radiator core sits at a mere 13 mm wide doing its best while struggling to keep your coolant cool. The CorkSport Mazda 3 Aluminum Radiator is here to stand up to the […]

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[jdmage_mx5]

This is awesome! I might have to look into this.

Inb4whereisthedata

[[R]usty]

Wow really? Badass!

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by jdmage_mx5 This is awesome! I might have to look into this. Inb4whereisthedata

I actually wouldnt mind seeing how much lower the coolant temps are compared to stock, wouldnt be that hard of a test. I mean if youre going to spend $350 on an aftermarket radiator there should be a decent difference.

[swsmailman]

Really awesome! Would love to see some data and review from testers as I do wonder how much this would help in Texas.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf I actually wouldnt mind seeing how much lower the coolant temps are compared to stock, wouldnt be that hard of a test. I mean if youre going to spend $350 on an aftermarket radiator there should be a decent difference.

I was scrolling down just to mention you lol. It would be hard for this to not be an improvement over stock.

[JSmith]

@CorkSport;

What test data do you have for this? Any that you are willing to share?

[Easter Bunny]

In before gen Juan and ms6 guys bitching they didn't get one.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny In before gen Juan and ms6 guys bitching they didn't get one.

Where the fuck is the MS6 version?!?!?!?

[Celestspeed3]

Originally Posted by JSmith @CorkSport; What test data do you have for this? Any that you are willing to share?

Give me mid season. I'll get you all the data you could ever hope for.

[jdmage_mx5]

Does this still fit for those running a FMIC where the piping runs in between the intake manifold and radiator? Such as the cxracing or CPE kit?

[someguy]

Does the system use more coolant because of the bigger core? Is it lighter weight than the stock radiator?

I guess in the heat of summer this will help keep BAT's down because the block won't be so hot which is pretty cool.

[markos213]

No gen one love?

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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by someguy Does the system use more coolant because of the bigger core? Is it lighter weight than the stock radiator? I guess in the heat of summer this will help keep BAT's down because the block won't be so hot which is pretty cool.

do you have any idea what a radiator is, how it works or what it does?

[someguy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny do you have any idea what a radiator is, how it works or what it does?

Obviously yes....they are legit questions.

Coolant amount, could be the same if it's just bigger fins/surface area...could be more if the actual core and passages are longer/bigger.

BAT's lower if the engine block isn't heat soaking everything (ie efficiently transfering heat through the radiator)...but won't make much difference unless your stock radiator wasn't able to keep up, since the thermostat should maintain a relatively constant temp under normal conditions.

Don't be a prick.

[Fjager]

this might just be the must have item for a lot of us that have hot summers and fmic's. thank you

Any chance for a group buy on this item

[rolanblack]

Cool story bro but is clearance tight where brake booster/Mani is at with the fan back on?

[ms6mil]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny In before gen Juan and ms6 guys bitching they didn't get one.

I was going to overlook this, but I......

[Fjager]

Originally Posted by rolanblack Cool story bro but is clearance tight where brake booster/Mani is at with the fan back on?

looking at where the mounting points are from the pictures it bulges more forward to the ac condenser than to the rear toward the intake mani, it should be the same clearance or just a tad less but not enough to mess with FMIC piping.

[magicka]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny In before gen Juan and ms6 guys bitching they didn't get one.

I was going to bitch, but you can get a Koyo for the GenWin.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by someguy Obviously yes....they are legit questions. Coolant amount, could be the same if it's just bigger fins/surface area...could be more if the actual core and passages are longer/bigger. BAT's lower if the engine block isn't heat soaking everything (ie efficiently transfering heat through the radiator)...but won't make much difference unless your stock radiator wasn't able to keep up, since the thermostat should maintain a relatively constant temp under normal conditions. Don't be a prick.

Since you are to ingnorant to see how stupid your questions are let me answer them for you.
No
No
No

Now shut the fuck up.

[someguy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Since you are to ingnorant to see how stupid your questions are let me answer them for you. No No No Now shut the fuck up.

Explain then oh wise godly one, until then you're just full of shit.


*edit*

Thinking about this, honestly can you explain? If I'm missing something here...the only one that is pretty unlikely is lighter weight, although yes I think it would be possible (more thermal efficiency through better materials, thinner but more plentiful fins, etc) it should have been obvious that that's probably not the case. The other two seem to make sense.

[Fatpig78]

Originally Posted by Celestspeed3 Give me mid season. I'll get you all the data you could ever hope for.

Let us know how many chicks we can pick by saying we have an aftermarket radiator

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[timmcc02]

This is terrible marketing, if your going to sell a product you need to tell the consumer why they should replace their radiator with this one. What will this do for me? Or how will this be better?

[Easter Bunny]

A larger radiator is not a product that need explanation. If you needed one you would know.

A larger radiator will have a larger capacity which will increase the thermal mass of the coolant meaning it will take longer for the coolant to overheat. it will also have longer fins and possibly a better optimized fin configuration to aid the radiator in shedding heat.

[El_Diablo]

@Easter Bunny;, the sales of such a radiator could benefit by providing data points of why theirs is better. @CorkSport; should know by now that we demand data. Why they continue not to provide such data upon release is really quite baffling. This practice isn't the most confidence inspiring and always leaves people feeling like they're hiding something. Why do we continually have to beg and plead @CorkSport; for information that the average consumer needs to make an informed purchase? Why must we continually test their products for them?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see new products, I just wish they would wake the fuck up and give us some hard data on a release for once, clearly showing how this will benefit us.

Also, by data, I mean give us some temp comparisons such as cool down, warm up, heat soak at a dead stop and so on. Not just "well it's bigger, it has to be better!!" because that's not always the case.

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny A larger radiator is not a product that need explanation. If you needed one you would know. A larger radiator will have a larger capacity which will increase the thermal mass of the coolant meaning it will take longer for the coolant to overheat. it will also have longer fins and possibly a better optimized fin configuration to aid the radiator in shedding heat.

Larger is subject to interpretation. What is larger? I think you mean thermal capacity of the cooling system instead of thermal mass of the coolant.

Data is what we need to verify that this is indeed an upgrade. A poorly designed radiator with a larger capacity is not, and will not respond the same as, a radiator with an optimized fin configuration.

[someguy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny A larger radiator is not a product that need explanation. If you needed one you would know. A larger radiator will have a larger capacity which will increase the thermal mass of the coolant meaning it will take longer for the coolant to overheat. it will also have longer fins and possibly a better optimized fin configuration to aid the radiator in shedding heat.

That was a better response, still a bit vague but not as rude lol

Yeah, pretty obvious when you need cooling system upgrades...you can't keep coolant temps within operating temperature.

Still would be interesting to see what the actual benefits are rather than just it's bigger.

[El_Diablo]

I'm also interested in the clearance allowed by the new radiator. Both front and rear.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by JSmith Larger is subject to interpretation. What is larger? I think you mean thermal capacity of the cooling system instead of thermal mass of the coolant. Data is what we need to verify that this is indeed an upgrade. A poorly designed radiator with a larger capacity is not, and will not respond the same as, a radiator with an optimized fin configuration.

I meant what i said, but both items are related

its a radiator not rocket science. I will go out on a limb and say without a doubt that this is better than the stock one. I challenge someone to install this and show scientifically that it did not improve the coolant temperatures. As i stated before simply allowing more coolant into the system is going to provide a tremendous benefit.

[faeker]

If I didn't need SEALS and a larger METH TANK I'd be picking this thing up now. 3 kids needing shit like clothing and food make it hard to spend car money.

[someguy]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny I meant what i said, but both items are related its a radiator not rocket science. I will go out on a limb and say without a doubt that this is better than the stock one. I challenge someone to install this and show scientifically that it did not improve the coolant temperatures. As i stated before simply allowing more coolant into the system is going to provide a tremendous benefit.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but given that there is a thermostat to control coolant temperature, unless you are exceeded the thermal capacity of the cooling system this will provide zero benefits.

Would be relatively easy to prove scientifically that it will not improve coolant temperatures up here in the snowy white north lol

[timmcc02]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny I meant what i said, but both items are related its a radiator not rocket science. I will go out on a limb and say without a doubt that this is better than the stock one. I challenge someone to install this and show scientifically that it did not improve the coolant temperatures. As i stated before simply allowing more coolant into the system is going to provide a tremendous benefit.

You are absolutely right, while not rocket science, my point was they didn't even say it increases coolant capacity of the system and by how much, therefore from their description they are marketing this as an appearance modification

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by faeker If I didn't need SEALS and a larger METH TANK I'd be picking this thing up now. 3 kids needing shit like clothing and food make it hard to spend car money.

Don't you have a 6?

[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by Celestspeed3 Give me mid season. I'll get you all the data you could ever hope for.

Do you regularly over-heat in track sessions??

[Dizzy Turbo]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Don't you have a 6?

Not a chance

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[Celestspeed3]

Originally Posted by jrotaryb Do you regularly over-heat in track sessions??

The car doesn't really over heat unless there is a mechanical problem. What happens is coolant temps rise to about 225F at this point the fans are running at mid to high speed and the motor will start to cut power output until the heat in matches the heat out if that makes sense. I managed to lower my ECT by about 15F across the board with the use of water and Mocool instead of coolant. With the new rad, I'm hoping I can extend it to a full 30-45min car on track without needing to come in. The extra cooling capacity basically delays this from happening or will preventing it altogether. I may end up putting one of these on the racecar for full track use.

TL/DR

Bigger rad means you can beat on it longer on track before heat soak.

[MechEnix]

How is this even a discussion. Larger surface area=more heat transferred from the fluid to the crossflowing air. Of course this will increase the time it takes for the engine to overheat when you're driving balls to the wall. This is probably more of a benefit if you track the car., for every day driving I doubt you'd see much benefit.

The bottom eq. is for parallel flow but whatever it's similar regardless. If you solve it you find q=UA(delta(T_lm)), where lm=log mean. Thus, as A increases q increases, or the amount of heat transferred increases.

Blah

[Dizzy Turbo]

Is that egyptian?

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[MechEnix]

Originally Posted by Dizzy Turbo Is that egyptian? Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

just maths