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[Kid_dynamite93]

Just bought a used 80 duro from a local nator member

[jrotaryb]

Just ordered w/ the JBR brackets!

[TheRaveReviewer]

I installed mine last weekend. It's a solid purchase and makes a difference, especially on those ramps.

[MOCO MS3]

Installed the new JBR .250 RSB, I call it the "Fat Boy" last week and here is a quick review of the bar. On the street I had the bar set to the middle setting and I drove the car on a few local roads with a lot of twisties and also on an exit ramp with decreasing radius turn, all I can say is the car felt like it was on rails........I felt no body roll, the car was stable and firmly planted and rotated nicely. You know you are on to something when the wife takes her turn in the car and was grinning, ear to ear, like the Chesire Cat in Alice in Wonderland!

She auto-x's and undertands vehicle dynamics and was quite impressed with the the improve handling of the car and the overall feel. On Saturday at the Mazda Corral@ Mosport, we got to do Parade Laps. I was right behind the pace car and if you have participated in one of our events, you know these can be be quite spirited.

I put the the Bar through it's paces and if you have seen the turn 5 A, B & C turns, you know that 5 b is a slow and very tricky turn.....well the car handled the tricky complex with relative ease and the car transitioned perfectly going into 5C and into turn 6!

Here is a link to the track Map: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...electedIndex=3


I ran full stiff on the bar as well and my coils, too! Jamie, has a real winner here! I can't wait to mate the new JBR FSB with the "Fat Boy" at Mid-Ohio Labor Day event that I will instructing at.

Tom Long of SpeedSource and Andrew Carbonell, will be putting the car and the FB and RSB through their tests as well. Can't wait to see what the pros have to say about the products! Great job and looking forward to doing a full day of testing at Mid-Ohio!

[Imnurmom]

Installed mine this last weekend. Makes a huge difference in how the car handles, and the install was a breeze!

[RACER_X]

just ordered mine in red, it'll stand out a little, figure it's kinda like a naughty girl showing a glimpse of her panties......lol

[tegxsi]

I just installed mines on the middle setting... it's awesome!
I was getting some noises going over bumps. One of my end links was starting to come loose. Make sure you use the thread locker.

[RACER_X]

ok, so i installed the 125 bar over the weekend.easy peasy

wife says its on rails, her DD

but when she takes a right into our steepish driveway she gets a loud POP has happend both days its been on.

Bar is set in middle hole

any ideas?

[JBR]

Originally Posted by RACER_X ok, so i installed the 125 bar over the weekend.easy peasy wife says its on rails, her DD but when she takes a right into our steepish driveway she gets a loud POP has happend both days its been on. Bar is set in middle hole any ideas?

More then likely loose it failing end links.

[RACER_X]

Only 31k on the car

1 of the ball joints nut was hand tight when I was taking them off

Do new ball joints require re-alignment?

Are they easily replaced? Need a ball joint tool?

[Nliiitend1]

New endlinks are an easy job.

No re-alignment would be necessary.

I'm on my 3rd set in 72K miles (though to be fair, I've only had one actual failure)...

[mrdean22]

Ordered a set. You're great at this jbr. I'm just constantly dumping all my money.

Now only if I could get a free license plate frame

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by jbarone More then likely loose it failing end links.

I disagree. I've had the same noise since I installed whiteline links that I had with the stockers. They're definitely tight. Again, it only happens while turning and going up an incline. Noise does not happen on potholes or while turning on flat ground.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Dimenus I disagree. I've had the same noise since I installed whiteline links that I had with the stockers. They're definitely tight. Again, it only happens while turning and going up an incline. Noise does not happen on potholes or while turning on flat ground.

Tightness is rarley the issue. When they make noise its from the socket. The are a ball and socket design.

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by jbarone Tightness is rarley the issue. When they make noise its from the socket. The are a ball and socket design.

The car makes the same noise with the white lines as it did with the stockers. You think they both failed?

[Nliiitend1]

If you're truly convinced that it isn't your links, check your bar and subframe for any evidence of contact between the two (especially the outer edges of the "end pieces").

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by Nliiitend1 If you're truly convinced that it isn't your links, check your bar and subframe for any evidence of contact between the two (especially the outer edges of the "end pieces").

There absolutely was contact at some point. Enlighten me, how does that indicate an issue with the end links rather than the brackets?

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Dimenus There absolutely was contact at some point.

Where?

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by jbarone Where?

Top of the bar on the drivers side (on the bulky end) has hit the subframe several times. I can take a pic of the marks when I get home after work.

I do have the original model swaybar. Idk if you modified the dimensions at all or just changed the name.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Dimenus Top of the bar on the drivers side (on the bulky end) has hit the subframe several times. I can take a pic of the marks when I get home after work. I do have the original model swaybar. Idk if you modified the dimensions at all or just changed the name.

Nothing has changed. Make sure the bar is centered properly and lower it a bit in the mounting brackets.

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by Dimenus There absolutely was contact at some point. Enlighten me, how does that indicate an issue with the end links rather than the brackets?

It doesn't.

It just might explain the noise, that's all.

I don't want to shit up a vendor section thread, but you've stumbled upon one of the reasons I am now using a CS solid bar. Much more subframe clearance and less issues with contact due to very slight positional shifts.

[Deldran]

Hey @Raider; can we do something about the posts getting deleted in here, some where helpful and not worthy of deletion

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Deldran Hey @Raider; can we do something about the posts getting deleted in here, some where helpful and not worthy of deletion

^^There^^ Restored the one that had helpful information in it.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by jbarone ^^There^^ Restored the one that had helpful information in it.

So classy of you, next time instead of denying known issues by deleting posts pointing them out, man up and own the issue.

That is all

[JBR]

What known issue? 1 guy makes this a known issue? Show us evidence of 10 people having contact problems that would constitute this as a known issue?

Every time this has come up it's been an end link issue or an adjustment issue, nothing more.

[[R]usty]

+1 @jbarone; I've had this bar with stock end links on full stiff for 2 years (35K miles) now without a single issue. I've also removed it for inspection, cleaning and re-greasing about 3-5 times already and every time it looked flawless.

[Deldran]

So blame the endlinks, when it seems no other bars have fitment issues with any brand of end links. hmm

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Deldran So blame the endlinks, when it seems no other bars have fitment issues with any brand of end links. hmm

Jesus Christ! When it's come down to noise it'e either been end links or position. No one else makes a bar this big, that is this style, that is this stiff. End links have been a "known Issue", positioning has been a "known issue"

I'm not blaming anything or anyone. I've replied in minutes every time this guy has posted. I'm trying to help this guy and you two are doing nothing but blaming me for some nonsense bullshit. And I'm the one with the lack of class? You wonder why off topic comments are deleted?

Enough.

[Nliiitend1]

I don't think I've blamed anyone for anything... Are you referring to me when you say "you two?"

I simply posted about my experience (in order to help this guy out in trying to diagnose his noise issue). Take it for what it is.

[Deldran]

Wow much butt hurt.

The real question is why make a bar that big when its not needed.

[Dimenus]

I've already explained what's happening. It's hitting the subframe. It's not my links nor has it ever been my links.

I didn't blame Jamie, however I've been dealing with clunking for a long time and the subframe holes are not as clean as they once were. So that minute amount of clearance in combination with not extremely tight mounting holes + a collar that allows for a slide yields clunk.

So i either need to Re-drill the holes and find a better collar or switch to a less aggressive bar. I don't need that huge bar on the back with coilovers anyway.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Dimenus I've already explained what's happening. It's hitting the subframe. It's not my links nor has it ever been my links. I didn't blame Jamie, however I've been dealing with clunking for a long time and the subframe holes are not as clean as they once were. So that minute amount of clearance in combination with not extremely tight mounting holes + a collar that allows for a slide yields clunk. So i either need to Re-drill the holes and find a better collar or switch to a less aggressive bar.

You never blamed me for anything, I was simply trying to help you. I did not know you had issues with your subframe causing you not to be able to get the bar tight. Two of the mounting holes will allow for nuts to be put behind them lowering the bar and adding the nuts may do the trick. The collars should not make a difference.

[siegsuwa]

I think it's fair to just acknowledge that when someone wants to install a bar that is "this big, in this style" that a trade-off is that positioning or matched endlinks is more critical. Sure, it may usually be user install error or bad endlinks, but the fact remains that it's a large bar and proper fitment is going to be a little more challenging to achieve than, let's say a smaller and less aggressive bar. Instead of deleting comments that are sharing of relevant experience, it would be more constructive to discuss it.

[Dimenus]

Originally Posted by jbarone You never blamed me for anything, I was simply trying to help you. I did not know you had issues with your subframe causing you not to be able to get the bar tight. Two of the mounting holes will allow for nuts to be put behind them lowering the bar and adding the nuts may do the trick. The collars should not make a difference.

I've had issues getting the bar tight because it's squeaked and clunked from the getgo. The squeaking was probably my fault using lithium grease in the stupid ass temperature swings we get in Wisconsin so I take ownership of that. Then the passenger side holes where stripped so I redrilled them to 12MM. Why I didn't do all four at that point I don't know.

Unfortunately it's the top mounting hole that's the biggest issue. Getting a nut up top is next to impossible. I did it once (on the passenger side) and never again.

The collars DO make a difference if it isn't tight Jamie. There's very very little clearance on a PU on specifically the driver's side. If that bracket slides up and down just a little bit it clunks. I wish I had a go pro to prove it.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Dimenus I've had issues getting the bar tight because it's squeaked and clunked from the getgo. The squeaking was probably my fault using lithium grease in the stupid ass temperature swings we get in Wisconsin so I take ownership of that. Then the passenger side holes where stripped so I redrilled them to 12MM. Why I didn't do all four at that point I don't know. Unfortunately it's the top mounting hole that's the biggest issue. Getting a nut up top is next to impossible. I did it once (on the passenger side) and never again. The collars DO make a difference if it isn't tight Jamie. There's very very little clearance on a PU on specifically the driver's side. If that bracket slides up and down just a little bit it clunks. I wish I had a go pro to prove it.

I don't need you to prove it I believe you. If the bar was tight this would be a non issue. Drill them all to 12mm and be done with it.

[MOCO MS3]

We have the bar .250 on our PU, NO issues at all and the collars were not installed. The car has been tracked at Mid-Ohio, VIR, Road Atlanta and Pitt Race. The bar has been through much more than most.

[faeker]

Hey Dim and @RACER_X;, if you can get some snapshots of the points of impact/hole change I think that may help out a bit. It's hard to make a clear image of the issue using just words. This road gets traveled often lately in this part of the forum and I think now pictures should be an immediate thing posted so people don't come in with their theories and spiked bats without having a clear image of exactly what is happening.


@jbarone; don't take ^ as a bash post. I just think now people should be including pics to give the members and yourself something to go on. I'm not a fan of vendor bashing, unless your name is cullen and you run the company that shall remain unsaid.

I hope the mentioned issues get resolved in a positive manner whether it be an issue with the bar or actual failed end links.

[RACER_X]

I don't think mine is impacting

It just snap crackles and pops like the cereal

Crazy in 1 wk the endlinks have gone from a little noise to every bump

I have some moogs coming in tom. Hopefully that fixes everything

[faeker]

I know that sound intimately. My fronts banged so badly that I thought my motor was falling out. Moogs are very nice compared to the stockers. Glw ridding yourself of the sound.

tapped by satan

[JBR]

Good quality full synthetic grease is a must with polyurethane bushings or noises will occur. The OEM end links are really not up to the job of larger sway bars.