CP-E Intake manifold

[El_Diablo]

JMF doesn't offer a bolt on solution for a TMIC either but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

[Enki]

With enough corn, BATs don't matter as much.

Hell, I'm tempted to try out chemical intercooling and ditch the IC all together, but that isn't really viable long term or for road racing without a huge meth cell.

[PapaSmurf]

If it has stock TB bolting, just get the super skaters TB.

I have a feeling this manifold is going to destroy the competitions and I fucking hate CPe haha


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[Tokay444]

Dual plenum?
A forced induction manifold needs a dual plenum.

[Lakespeed6]

Are we sure this won't support TMIC?
I plan on staying TMIC with Meth and E.

[El_Diablo]

All you'll need to do is fab a bracket and TMIC to TB connection. Not all that difficult.

[PapaSmurf]

all this TMIC talk LOL

[jack_hammer]

Originally Posted by Voltwings i ran my ETS + Meth on my BT for quite some time. it worked amazing

*amazingly

Originally Posted by Enki It's this more even airflow I want, not more overall airflow.

exaaaactly

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by jack_hammer *amazingly

the sad part is i'm a grammar nazi haha. No more late night forum scrolling on the phone -_-

[Ziggo]

I like the that the SLA has the injector bodies included. Why? Because we can.

Zigatapatalka

[super_pablo_]

as usual, late to the thread, but better late than never.

[khopwood77]

Nothing a 5 port meth kit won't cure.

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[El_Diablo]

If I get a manifold most likely I will go with an ETS TMIC and meth. A FMIC is tempting but im not sure I want that much lag on my DD.

It just seems like the best solution for my usage. On top of that, I really would like to see if we can push a K04 any further on a stock style setup and again, I think a TMIC would be the best way to do this.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo If I get a manifold most likely I will go with an ETS TMIC and meth. A FMIC is tempting but im not sure I want that much lag on my DD. It just seems like the best solution for my usage. On top of that, I really would like to see if we can push a K04 any further on a stock style setup and again, I think a TMIC would be the best way to do this.

lag... on a K04... is this real life?

[El_Diablo]

Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

its not very difficult to understand that it is not noticable at all.

[Voltwings]

also, nothing a quick tinker with ATR cant fix.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo Not turbo lag.... throttle lag. On any turbo system, the shorter the turbo to throttle plumbing, the faster the engine will respond. Not a very difficult theory to understand.

you know you can change your APP and DWB tables right?

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes you know you can change your APP and DWB tables right?

That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner.

Being as how I've never been in an ms3 with a tmic or a fmic I have nothing to go on as far as feel other than what other people have said about their tmic to fmic throttle response. Typically the best rule of thumb is to make the IC system as short as possible with as few bends as possible to increase/maintain throttle response. The TMIC is king in that function. The offset of course is the ease of heatsoak on a TMIC setup.

Its perfectly logical that a car with a 10 cubic foot plumbing system will fill faster than a vehicle with a 20 cubic foot system. A larger turbo does negate that somewhat however due to the larger volume of air its able to push.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner. Being as how I've never been in an ms3 with a tmic or a fmic I have nothing to go on as far as feel other than what other people have said about their tmic to fmic throttle response. Typically the best rule of thumb is to make the IC system as short as possible with as few bends as possible to increase/maintain throttle response. The TMIC is king in that function. The offset of course is the ease of heatsoak on a TMIC setup. Its perfectly logical that a car with a 10 cubic foot plumbing system will fill faster than a vehicle with a 20 cubic foot system. A larger turbo does negate that somewhat however due to the larger volume of air its able to push.

You just said you've never been in an MS3 at all yet you have one posted in your signature like it is yours. Troll much?

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle You just said you've never been in an MS3 at all yet you have one posted in your signature like it is yours. Troll much?

Aftermarket tmic or fmic fuck face. Comprehension skills help.

Originally Posted by Ziggo Wait, you have never been in a ms3 with either and you are passing judgement on the throttle response? I have a larger turbo and a fmic and the throttle response is just fine. Zigatapatalka

Which again, the larger turbo will assist in filling the larger volume. no judgement being passed that I'm aware of but thanks.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner.

you obviously fail to understand how those tables work... lets just keep this simple.
The APP tables = Applied pedal position if you didnt already know, lets assume the one you have right now is 1:1. If you push the pedal 10% the throttle body opens 10%. Now to compensate for "lag", we can bump up the throttle body to open say... 15%. Now when you push the pedal down 10% the throttle body has opened 15%, so you are filling the same volume with the same pedal position and the car feels the exact same.

the lag is not something you will even notice, but there are plenty of ways around it still.

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by Voltwings you obviously fail to understand how those tables work... lets just keep this simple. The APP tables = Applied pedal position if you didnt already know, lets assume the one you have right now is 1:1. If you push the pedal 10% the throttle body opens 10%. Now to compensate for "lag", we can bump up the throttle body to open say... 15%. Now when you push the pedal down 10% the throttle body has opened 15%, so you are filling the same volume with the same pedal position and the car feels the exact same. the lag is not something you will even notice, but there are plenty of ways around it still.

I understand how the tables work but it still doesn't mean that void is any smaller. I would say that the method you've posted could be an effective bandaid for a laggy system though.

Again, Istill believe the smaller the route the better for throttle response. It'll never respond like an n/a car cann but its nice to be atleast close.

Either way, different strokes.....

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by El_Diablo That won't change one damn thing about what I'm talking about. Its not going to fill the vacuum any sooner. Being as how I've never been in an ms3 with a tmic or a fmic I have nothing to go on as far as feel other than what other people have said about their tmic to fmic throttle response. Typically the best rule of thumb is to make the IC system as short as possible with as few bends as possible to increase/maintain throttle response. The TMIC is king in that function. The offset of course is the ease of heatsoak on a TMIC setup. Its perfectly logical that a car with a 10 cubic foot plumbing system will fill faster than a vehicle with a 20 cubic foot system. A larger turbo does negate that somewhat however due to the larger volume of air its able to push.

Read your own fucking sentences and the then call me fuckface again you illiterate, child molesting, bag of dick snot.

[El_Diablo]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Read your own fucking sentences and the then call me fuckface again you illeterate, child molesting, bag of dick snot.

.

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle you illiterate, child molesting, bag of dick snot.

Added to vocabulary for a time I may need it. Thank you JMhinkle.

[NJSPEED3]

Come On CPE I'm waiting !!

[XLT_66]

Hmmm. This does look pretty nice. I tried to get this project approved over a year ago to start working on but got denied.

Good job CP-E, doing what I wanted but wasn't allowed.

P.S. - I'd be happy to test this for you guys as well. Mods in sig and Mustang Dyno out back. Just sayin...

[NJSPEED3]

Originally Posted by XLT_66 Hmmm. This does look pretty nice. I tried to get this project approved over a year ago to start working on but got denied. Good job CP-E, doing what I wanted but wasn't allowed. P.S. - I'd be happy to test this for you guys as well. Mods in sig and Mustang Dyno out back. Just sayin...

Get in the back of the line buddy.





























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[ms3blackmica]

Very nice.

Options are always something that I like.

Very interested to see what becomes of this!

[Ziggo]

Wait, you have never been in a ms3 with either and you are passing judgement on the throttle response?

I have a larger turbo and a fmic and the throttle response is just fine.

Zigatapatalka

[ms3blackmica]

Don't make me tag every BY owner I know Lol

[Fatguy729]

LOL why does every cp-e thread turn into a shitstorm?

[Monotonous ONE]

Originally Posted by Fatguy729 LOL why does every cp-e thread turn into a shitstorm?

Nothing else to do while we hope/wait for them to release the product being discussed.

You shit for brains dick munching tranny blowing faggot

[super_pablo_]

this argument doesnt even fucking belong here. Not only is it not directly relevant to the intake manifold, but its a fucking discussion that has been talked about in 100 other fucking threads. Cut that shit off.

[theurgy]

Agreed.

[PapaSmurf]

Who the fuck is this guy anyway, like any of his statements matter on this forum.


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[khopwood77]

All that matters is there are TMIC fags and FMIC nazis that want this manifold. It would help to have a product that will support both factions to keep the price low. More people to spread the r&d cost off to.

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[Sum1UDidntC]

i have a k04 and fmic and i actually think i have better response than i did with tmic (might be because of dp or something idk :0) better than my friend's evo still

[PapaSmurf]

so much blowing/fucking and tranny's in here.

Perfect place for me.