EGR Delete = Bad Ass Meth Install??

[jhershorin]

Well as all of you know I had my big modding days in the past. I stay pretty quiet and out of MOST of the drama on here. I am modest in the sense that I do feel I know a fair amount about modding and building performance/fast vehicles, but try not to overstep my boundaries and still love being proven wrong because it means I learned something knew.

Well after my last car I said this one wouldn't be heavily modded but oh well. Meeting the guys from CP-e and spending time with them and partying my face off with Josh on New Years things changed. I sold a few of my non-CP-e parts and replaced them with the remaining bolt ons I didn't have. So now that I am fully bolted I hopefully won't do more haha.

I decided to rip into my motor this weekend and clean it out. Create my own pcv system and remove / add a few other things to improve upon it. Pictures will start it.



I started by tearing out everything I didn't need in there so that I could get to the areas I wanted to. I removed the EGR system and put a plate from whoosh in. I saw how gross the inside of my intake manifold was I removed the stock PCV and made my own setup which will lead to a SM Catch Can.



I took out the VCTS as well and while I was plugging the 1/2" NPT whole in the intake manifold where the EGR recirculated into it I thought it would be a great location for my meth nozzle. I happened to have an 1/2" Male NPT to 1/4" female NPT fitting laying around so that is where my Meth nozzle will go! I need to finish mounting it up in the trunk and running all the wires and then I will run 100% distilled water for a while. My only concern is how small the spot I am spraying into is. We shall see though I guess.



More to come once I finish everything. I am going to spend Monday and Tuesday trying to tie things up.

PS. Thank you to Josh and Jordan from CP-e and Jason from P3 and Whoosh. I will be running the car in March most likely and seeing what we can do. My buddy Carlos down in PR may be making me a manifold soon - hopefully I can resist that urge!

[gsrtype1]

Awsome write up! very cool

[2nr]

lol, I remember the day that I argued with you about modding the car... I told you it was gonna happen again.. lol

[jhershorin]

Ya ya. I have nothing to reply with Car better feel quick when I am done. I don't care if it's slow as long as it feels quick haha.

[LBV]

I agree with your concern about spraying the H2O through that narrow and long EGR passage ... I can see a lot of the mist condensing to water on the walls ...

[Haltech]

I knew i should of saved our chat in the shoutbox! "Hal, im not modding this MS6"

[jhershorin]

Haha ya. Well - i dont consider this heavily modded though. Seriously. Its got a lot of bolt ons but thats not big modding. Big modding would be running a twin scroll gt42, window spray of nitrous to get me in boost, a 3rd gear that gets me to 130mph, and a few other things i want to do haha.

[Phantom]

Looks like a nice spot. Keep us posted.

[babcockxmx]

that seems like a good idea but am skeptical of the egr narrow passage

id really think it would be more effectively cooling if it were to be mounted like this:http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ng-thread.html

[jhershorin]

I drilled and tapped that already. I put a plug in as well so I can switch. I don't think the EGR will work either but its fun to try new things. I didn't have to drill the EGR spot so no reason not to try. If it doesnt work I just put a 1/4" NPT plug in.

[bova]

you should try like PTP did and rig it up before putting it on the car and see how it shoots out.

[MS6_Auburn_Fan]

I can see the potential in putting the WI in this spot. If there is enough pressure behind the nozzle then it might do a good enough job mixing with intake air. One thing to consider is a loooong nozzle that puts it further into the EGR port.

[Ghost Rider]

wow, what the hell do you do for a living? I am amazed and impressed that you can just do all of this stuff.

[jhershorin]

Heh. I just finished my masters and don't start work till feb so I am making the most of this time.

[djuosnteisn]

If your gonna mock up a spray example, might want to hook up a leaf blower to your TB flange to simulate intake air, and also, if you want to get real technical, figure out a way to simulate the valves opening. The egr passage does seem narrow, but give it a try man, and see how it works.

[Ghost Rider]

Originally Posted by jhershorin Heh. I just finished my masters and don't start work till feb so I am making the most of this time.

just to clarify, I was wondering if you did something related to engineering or something mechanical in nature that helps you with the fabbing and stuff. it amazes me that people just make stuff in their garages

[ATE BALLER]

lol

[killa cam]

i do not think this is a good place to spray. it will atomize a lot better if it is directly in the path of the air. also i don't think you give the mixture enough time to cool the air. i have other reasons but i need to go outside and have a smoke. a cool idea, but i don't think it will be optimal.

[jhershorin]

Originally Posted by Ghost Rider just to clarify, I was wondering if you did something related to engineering or something mechanical in nature that helps you with the fabbing and stuff. it amazes me that people just make stuff in their garages

Nope - no qualifications. Just love working on cars and think outside the box. You should see the shit i come up with when i have my shop to work in.

[cld12pk2go]

You would be much better off if you relocated your nozzle.

It is certain that you are going to have a considerable amount of your injected mist coalesce on the long narrow walls of that passage.

I would recommend that you inject just prior to the TB with the nozzle pointing in the direction of air flow if possible.

I am going to locate my nozzle in the rubber hose between my stock TMIC and the TB with the nozzle aiming straight at the TB. This should minimize how much mist coalesces on the walls.

My background is chemical engineering, and I have dealt with nozzles in industrial applications (for whatever that is worth).

[Laloosh]

i agree with killa, this is probably the worst place to spray

[SneakyP86]

Originally Posted by Laloosh i agree with killa, this is probably the worst place to spray

SO what do you think of the freeze plug location?

[Laloosh]

i dont like it either...just wait till you have to diagnose something

[Fratman]

I don't like your location not in the direct air flow