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i just got recently finished instaling everything in my 07 ms3 (all of its in my sig), and got it tuned today. i was expecting to be within the 325 whp range after the tune just for safety reasons being its my DD. Boy was I wrong. the dyno sheet said my max was 218hp/237tq and my avg was 191whp/207tq. is there any reason why i SHOULDNT upset by those number? its max boost is 18.3psi and the avg was 15.2psi. i could post the dyno sheet if any one would like. could it just be a very bad tune? im completely frustrated and confused at those number. i guess my real question is what is causing the poor dyno? the hp and tq gains arent much from a base tune. i want to be sick!!!!
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Something is wrong. Numbers should be much higher. Post a log so we can see what's going on
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no way jose!!! what type of dyno? who tuned it?
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You sure you didn't break the dyno because you should be putting down a lot of power?
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BT and only 218 hp? Something is definitely wrong there. Also, "Got it tuned today"? You mean you received a complete tune in one day? Who did the tune?
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akuma motor sports did the tune. woodbridge nj. im posting dyno sheet now.
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lol, your avg was 191/207. Dat dum der be honda numbers. Maybe you dyno'd in reverse. I don't know who Akuma motorsports is, but why didn't you get a real tune from an e-tuner?
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lol, your avg was 191/207. Dat dum der be honda numbers. Maybe you dyno'd in reverse. I don't know who Akuma motorsports is, but why didn't you get a real tune from an e-tuner?
the guy who tuned it used to work for cobb and i figured hed know what hes doing lol they usually are a reliable place
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the guy who tuned it used to work for cobb and i figured hed know what hes doing lol they usually are a reliable place
Well, I guess you got what you wanted; a safe tune. Guessing your timing is negative infinity.
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alright here is the dyno sheet they gave me
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Originally Posted by Khill6674 View Post
akuma motor sports did the tune. woodbridge nj. im posting dyno sheet now.
This is why....Akuma motorsports is awful when it comes to tuning our cars. My advice hit up an E-tuner on this site and get your tune checked out. Ive heard of a few motors blowing from tunes from them.

ms3blackmica is who you want to talk to if hes not backed up with people to tune. Theres a whole section of E-tuners if hes not available.
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Hard to judge the tune without a log. Post up a log of the tune and details such as fuel being used etc.
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akuma motor sports did the tune. woodbridge nj. im posting dyno sheet now.
You live in NJ?!? NJ NATOR has some very knowledgeable members @rfinkle2; @ms3blackmica who are excellent tuners.

I suggest you donate for VIP, and start getting involved with meets etc.
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If that shop let you leave with your car producing such horrifying numbers, they do not know what they are doing on this platform nor take pride in their work.
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Boost shouldn't drop off like that on a GT28. Get someone to e-tune you and clean your intake valves if you haven't, I imagine they're caked with carbon.
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You live in NJ?!? NJ NATOR has some very knowledgeable members @rfinkle2; @ms3blackmica who are excellent tuners.

I suggest you donate for VIP, and start getting involved with meets etc.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...lendar-112783/

If that shop let you leave with your car producing such horrifying numbers, they do not know what they are doing on this platform nor take pride in their work.
ive been meaning to donate for awhile. Just made my first donation!!
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In before 'stock BPV'
Also, don't trust a local shop. They normally don't understand how these cars need to be tuned. E-Tuners and people who have been around the platform know WAY more and can help you hit that 325 goal with ease.
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Numbers aren't the whole story...how does the car feel? Based on the numbers you should be slower than stock...is it?
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So, your car is putting out less power to the wheels than stock. Interesting tune strategy they've got. It's like a reverse brentune.

Maybe I missed it but did you do the work yourself?
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So, your car is putting out less power to the wheels than stock. Interesting tune strategy they've got. It's like a reverse brentune.

Maybe I missed it but did you do the work yourself?
Valet mode version 2.0?
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Boost is tapering like stock, need to get a proper tune from an e-tuner here... I'd also be asking for a partial refund/retune (IF you still want them messing with your car)

Are you using a MBC? Boost looks off for MBC.. I'd be checking for hardware probs too..
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Dyno shop stole your turbo, those have to be the worst ms3 numbers.. ever

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So you know how sometimes you wake up after a night of drunken debauchery and the girl next to you is coyote ugly and wants to cuddle and you instantly realize the incredibly bad decision that you made? This is like that, but without the excuse of being drunk.

Don't worry. There's lots of pretty girls here who you can get with. RichTune, Stratified, Perm, FreekTune...they're all pretty.
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Lol @ used to work at Cobb.
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i have been in contact with ms3blackmica. i am going to replace the mbc with a grimmspeed 3port ebcs and hopefully set up a date soon for him to check it out. As for akuma they will not be touching it anymore.

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Numbers aren't the whole story...how does the car feel? Based on the numbers you should be slower than stock...is it?
car does feel slower. im gonna baby it till i can get a good tune
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I think speedperformance is selling 3 ports. Probably cheaper than grimmspeed and they're in nj.
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Originally Posted by Khill6674 View Post
i have been in contact with ms3blackmica. i am going to replace the mbc with a grimmspeed 3port ebcs and hopefully set up a date soon for him to check it out. As for akuma they will not be touching it anymore.
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Originally Posted by Khill6674 View Post
i have been in contact with ms3blackmica. i am going to replace the mbc with a grimmspeed 3port ebcs and hopefully set up a date soon for him to check it out. As for akuma they will not be touching it anymore.


car does feel slower. im gonna baby it till i can get a good tune
Curious, what did you spend on the tune? If it was a lot I'd really try to go after getting your money back. It's one thing to get a tune and it's not the best ever, but to get one thats so bad it's worse than stock on a big turbo, idk that's wierd as hell.
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and you're positive you were using just the gas pedal not all 3 at one time?

my god i hope they give you a refund...
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Curious, what did you spend on the tune? If it was a lot I'd really try to go after getting your money back. It's one thing to get a tune and it's not the best ever, but to get one thats so bad it's worse than stock on a big turbo, idk that's wierd as hell.
I spent 399 on the tune. I will be contacting them tomorrow and attempting to get some of my
Money back. ill be happy if I can at least get half back.
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I wouldn't be happy unless I got a full refund. Putting out that kind of results and demonstrating lack of knowledge on the platform they're charging pro prices for isn't good business practice.
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I spent 399 on the tune. I will be contacting them tomorrow and attempting to get some of my
Money back. ill be happy if I can at least get half back.
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I think speedperformance is selling 3 ports. Probably cheaper than grimmspeed and they're in nj.
I'm gonna look it up thanks
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Whats the update on this , what did the shop ever tell you?
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