FORGE MOTORSPORT inlet pipe

[ms3guy22]

e-bitch smack!

[cld12pk2go]

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[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by GQ_WhiteMS3 TRU-BOOST ... tempted to call BS on this one, didn't you say they made one and you've test fitted this piece ... twice?... EDIT:[ Sorry ... I misread your post above ... when you were talking about fitting something twice it wasn't the inlet was it ... things get out of context when posts get deleted] I emailed Forge and got this response from them ...see below ... (Sorry if posting a email is frowned upon here) We haven't yet produced the prototype but I expect that in the next few weeks. After that, if it fits and is trouble free right off the bat, I would expect to bring these to market in 1-3 months. Patrick Robles Forge Motorsport Tel: 407.447.5363 Fax: 407.447.5361

there you go...good work digging up the dirt !

[skeeter149]

call me stupid the above post confused me...

[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by skeeter149 call me stupid the above post confused me...

someone asked when to expect this part to be avaiable.
GQ emailed forge and got the answer !!

[udontknowjack]

how long ago was that?

[TRU-BOOST]

his post was on 8/20 so i assume he got the response around then also..?
the man who replied to him was Patrick. that is my direct contact at forge, so i would say his estimates are accurate. me and the boys at forge have some nice surprises coming soon !!

[BreakTheStatic]

Originally Posted by TRU-BOOST his post was on 8/20 so i assume he got the response around then also..? the man who replied to him was Patrick. that is my direct contact at forge, so i would say his estimates are accurate. me and the boys at forge have some nice surprises coming soon !!

Planting the bait, huh? I'm very interested to see what else is in store for the MS3. Forge is a great company.

[xcoldricex]

blahhh need inlet pipe now.

[EasternWind]

any updates for this?

[ptperformance]

Silicone? If they build it out of that I hope they know to put some reinforcements in it. I have seen my fair share or silicone inlets colapse under boost.

[BreakTheStatic]

Originally Posted by ptperformance Silicone? If they build it out of that I hope they know to put some reinforcements in it. I have seen my fair share or silicone inlets colapse under boost.

Wouldn't the inlet tube be in vacuum, not boost?

[socks]

yes, thats why they collapse under boost. if the turbo is creating boost, its creating more vacuum in the inlet...

[BreakTheStatic]

No, I understand what he meant exactly... Under boost, weak silicone will expand, not collapse. It's the suction of vacuum that causes it to collapse. I was just trying to be a smart-ass. Sorry

[Lymerock]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex blahhh need inlet pipe now.

RPMC has inlets in stock again and on sale, 200 for plain, +35 for ceramic coating. I ordered it tuesday and they said they will ship my order by the 22nd, im assuming adding ceramic coating added a few days

[Speedy3]

A silicone inlet will not only have to be strong against collapse, but the engine movement will be pushing and pulling it against the stock airbox or cold air intake. Just look at the video:

YouTube - Mazdaspeed 3 Engine Movement While driving

YouTube - Mazdaspeed 3 Engine Movement While driving

The shiny piece in the center of the video is my MS CAI. This is with the stock inlet which is fixed against the engine by the mounting stud. A silicone inlet most likely won't be mounted down and will be put under a lot of stress by engine movement.

[ATE BALLER]

MMs FTMFW. Also, a good silicone inlet would have ribs every inch or so.

[Yahdy Ras]

1-3 months...still months before COBB will get around to it. Im interested.


Especially interested in someone giving COBB a run for their money in this MS3/MS6 market. I love their stuff to death, but the back order on basically everything they fukin make besides suspension that they bought off of hotchkis is ridiculous. Maybe this will make them a little hastier

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by BreakTheStatic No, I understand what he meant exactly... Under boost, weak silicone will expand, not collapse. It's the suction of vacuum that causes it to collapse. I was just trying to be a smart-ass. Sorry

Missed the "sarcasim" in that post .

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by Yahdy Ras 1-3 months...still months before COBB will get around to it. Im interested. Especially interested in someone giving COBB a run for their money in this MS3/MS6 market. I love their stuff to death, but the back order on basically everything they fukin make besides suspension that they bought off of hotchkis is ridiculous. Maybe this will make them a little hastier

Agreed and I think that Cobb is selling parts based on there name alone. Now don't get me wrong, they make great parts its just...... to long for a large company like that to have delays (calling the kettle black, I know). Cobb should have had a ton of parts out but they are working on several other items as well.... I hope this turns out to be a quality part from Forge.

[bioevolve]

YAY!!!! Another part to buy.

[TRU-BOOST]

if the cheesy little rubber couplers on the stock inlet can take all that movement without getting torn to shreds, an all silicone one will be fine.
the last update i got said it will be a few weeks. they have a new STI in the shop that is eating up a good deal of their R&D time right now. soon enough fellas....soon enough !

[Speedy3]

Originally Posted by TRU-BOOST if the cheesy little rubber couplers on the stock inlet can take all that movement without getting torn to shreds, an all silicone one will be fine. the last update i got said it will be a few weeks. they have a new STI in the shop that is eating up a good deal of their R&D time right now. soon enough fellas....soon enough !

?? Did you miss the part where those inlets are mounted to the engine on a mounting stud, not just on the turbo? A full silicone, un mounted inlet will take the brunt of the engine movement.

[Radar_This]

sweet and interested!

[TRU-BOOST]

Originally Posted by Speedy3 ?? Did you miss the part where those inlets are mounted to the engine on a mounting stud, not just on the turbo? A full silicone, un mounted inlet will take the brunt of the engine movement.

that little stud makes it even worse on the cheap ass couplers then....good point ! the stud is holding the inlet still and the CAI is mounted with a stud too but to the frame not the motor. so you have the motor pulling one way and the cai trying to stay still. that means that coupler in between the two has to take some punishment ! either way i dont think it is gonna make a shits bit of difference.

[94jedi]

So any prelim pics yet???

[TRU-BOOST]

nothing yet, i just sent an email to get the scoop.

[Speedie6]

If of any interest, I've got a inlet pipe I'm selling. Though it is deigned only for a stock 2" inlet K04 turbo.

Speedie6's Turbo Inlet Pipe - Mazda6 / Atenza

[bombdotcom]

looks good

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by Speedie6 If of any interest, I've got a inlet pipe I'm selling. Though it is deigned only for a stock 2" inlet K04 turbo. Speedie6's Turbo Inlet Pipe - Mazda6 / Atenza

Got any dyno # on the part? Sorry, I didn't have time to wade through the 28 pages you linked to...

[TRU-BOOST]

i see you have a 6 .... the inlet pipe for a 3 and 6 ARE NOT THE SAME. just look at the ATP website they use 2 different kits and they look nothing alike. i have confirmed this with PG as well. the stock inlet pipes are not the same between the 2 cars. that looks good for a 6 though !!

[Speedie6]

I looked at the ATP page. And, TRU-BOOST is right, they have a different inlet pipe for the 3 vs the 6. But, what is very bizarre is, every picture of the inlet pipe of the 3 I've seen looks as near as I can tell to be exactly the same. The picture on ATP's site only shows a small part of the stock, but, what they show looks exactly the same.

Further, a guy named "Speedy3" makes a part that looks very similar to mine. I probably wouldn't have even made my part if I had known about his, but I was already in the middle of production when I found his. At least from the pictures, it looks like his part would fit my car. And his pictures of the stock inlet looks like mine.

At any rate, I am going to send one of mine to a Speed 3 user to check fitment.

[Speedy3]

The stock inlets for the CX-7, Speed3 and Speed6 ARE exactly the same. The difference is the space between the battery box and engine. The speed 6 has a battery mount screw and wire harness that sit next to the battery box towards the engine (not to mention a different battery box). The CX-7 is virtually the same except it has a transmission dipstick that goes down and turns underneath the inlet toward the engine (down to the transmission).

[Speedie6]

Thanks Speedy3.

Speedy3 and I came up with very similar designs for an inlet pipe, independently. I didn't know about his product until I had mine in process of production.

It is weird that ATP has two different parts listed. But their part for the Speed 3 looks a lot better than their part for the Speed 6, and I think a newer design. Perhaps they are just doing testing on the Speed 6 before they list it for the 6 and drop their old product. That's just a guess, I don't know.

As someone else noted, the stock part is mounted to the turbo, and to a bolt on top, so, it is not subject to engine motion. My part and Speedy3's part both make use of the top mount like the stock part.

Speedy3 has offerred his with ceramic coating. I haven't offerred mine that way, but, you could have it done yourself.

I mainly did mine simply because up until when I started doing mine, there had been no good options. I probably wouldn't have done it if I know about Speedy3's.

[TRU-BOOST]

hhmmm... well we will have all sorts of options to choose from if they can all interchange !! i am running a custom stainless steel one that i made myself for temporary use until this silicaon one is done. it is temp. because i didnt put a recirc port on it. i am running a forge VTA valve that is doing the trick for now. i do get a pop/ backfire every now and then, but it gets the job done !!

[GQ_WhiteMS3]

Has there been more word from Forge on this? Pictures have been release of the COBB inlet pipe, shown elsewhere on this forums....


Forge needs to get to the market soon with this if they're gonna get the sales. We all know of Cobb's issues with supply, but this is just silicone and thats never been their problem.

[TRU-BOOST]

my contact there has been on vacation so i havent heard. there is nothing to making it, it just sucks that it is being done all the way in the UK. i hope to hear something tomorrow.

[skeeter149]

Originally Posted by GQ_WhiteMS3 Has there been more word from Forge on this? Pictures have been release of the COBB inlet pipe, shown elsewhere on this forums.... Forge needs to get to the market soon with this if they're gonna get the sales. We all know of Cobb's issues with supply, but this is just silicone and thats never been their problem.

that looks good!!