The best mod I have ever done!!!!

[johnnyspeed6]

Hey guys .. cut my fujita cold air three inches from the MAF housing and installed the screen in my old accordian type tubing ... put the CAI back together and went for a spin ... car feels smoother, I felt it the momst during the shifts .. car jumps a little more ... stoppe dwith some of the hesitation the car had ... I AM going to post all the pics but SOMEONE moved my cables so I cant get the pics of the camera .. my bad .. ill post as soon as I find them ... nice mod though ....

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by bnoon Hay Eazy, perhaps you could post a log showing the MAF voltage with/without the screen instead? That would be an instant change, no matter when you reset the ecu, then you could post the af ratios later after it's had a chance to relearn. The MAF voltage transition logs I used to have were drastic and immediate... Like a sign wave vs a light switch... so so soooooo much smoother.

Hmmm... I'll see about doing that tomorrow.

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by SpeedNess can this be added to the hks intake, if so i will definetly order one like right now lol. thanks in advance

I would have to say yes but I would have to see the intake first, thanks.

Originally Posted by Czar Quanovan Any pictures of how it installs? I have the COBB SF is that compatable?

Yes, Eazy has you taken care of. Thanks Eazy!

Originally Posted by Eazy Yes, I'll run down to my car and get some pics of it in a little bit.

You the man, thanks.

Originally Posted by Erich We also put one on a MazdaSpeed CAI today. Before it was installed AFRs were fluctuating all over the place under boost. It would jump back and forth from 9s to 15s. With the screen installed, the AFRs dropped like they should and held steady. No fluctuation. Eazy has the Dashhawk logs showing this.

Its was amazing how much the AFR's smoothed out. We should have gotten MAF voltage but I think that the AFR's is just as good. Thanks for helping out with the install, you need to swing by and pick up another one.

Originally Posted by steven88 just ordered mine, can't wait to put it on!

Thanks, we should be shipping them all out Monday.

Originally Posted by Czar Quanovan I might order one too...I'm on a tear lately since I just ordered an RSB

We have pleanty on hand guys, I bought a huge roll of this stuff.

Originally Posted by jayspeed3 Does the pattern of the screen really matter when it comes to airflow, or just spacing between the holes? What I am asking is, does it matter if the pattern is diamond or squared?

It matters a great deal, trust me you don't want to use window screen (tried that, failed horribly bad).

Originally Posted by serium probably spacing between holes is whats important....diamond or squared its still going to smooth out the air flow

Yes it is, thanks.

Originally Posted by bnoon Hay Eazy, perhaps you could post a log showing the MAF voltage with/without the screen instead? That would be an instant change, no matter when you reset the ecu, then you could post the af ratios later after it's had a chance to relearn. The MAF voltage transition logs I used to have were drastic and immediate... Like a sign wave vs a light switch... so so soooooo much smoother.

I will see what we can come up with, I was busy with everyone and didn't have time to address the datalogs, just looked at them and they looked very good.

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by johnnyspeed6 Hey guys .. cut my fujita cold air three inches from the MAF housing and installed the screen in my old accordian type tubing ... put the CAI back together and went for a spin ... car feels smoother, I felt it the momst during the shifts .. car jumps a little more ... stoppe dwith some of the hesitation the car had ... I AM going to post all the pics but SOMEONE moved my cables so I cant get the pics of the camera .. my bad .. ill post as soon as I find them ... nice mod though ....

Thank you for the info, it looks like just about every intake system likes to have this added to it. It makes sence that they work better with it also. I have a few more that we are shipping out and after that we should have a few more review on them. Thanks for alll the help guys.

[phantomspeed3]

Originally Posted by ptperformance Yes, how big of a square would you need? Thanks.

would it fit on the HKS Racing Suction SRI?

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by phantomspeed3 would it fit on the HKS Racing Suction SRI?

I can cut it to any size you need, would a 4x4 inch piece work? I have no idea how big that intake is, so I would just be guessing is I said yes.

[Hectik1]

Now if you have the stock air straighteners should you keep them in or remove them and replace with the screen? My MAF adapter is a modifed stocker with the stock air straighteners still in.

[kalix]

It shouldn't hurt having both the straighteners and screen. It might actually be better.

FYI, this is nothing new for anyone interested in these screens. Mazda actually uses two sets of screens in the RX8's intake tube. I removed one screen before to see if it would increase air flow, but I didn't really feel the difference.

Also, can someone help me decipher the DH logs...I'm just curious am I suppose to be looking at the AFRs during the boost or through out the entire time?

[phantomspeed3]

Originally Posted by ptperformance I can cut it to any size you need, would a 4x4 inch piece work? I have no idea how big that intake is, so I would just be guessing is I said yes.

how much would it cost?

[phantomspeed3]

so basically all this is is a piece of mesh right before the MAF?

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by kalix It shouldn't hurt having both the straighteners and screen. It might actually be better. FYI, this is nothing new for anyone interested in these screens. Mazda actually uses two sets of screens in the RX8's intake tube. I removed one screen before to see if it would increase air flow, but I didn't really feel the difference. Also, can someone help me decipher the DH logs...I'm just curious am I suppose to be looking at the AFRs during the boost or through out the entire time?

throughout the entire time, but during boost is the most important.

[racersir]

Why is shipping to PR zip code 00676 is $14.50 for the screen and not the same $4 dollars I was going to buy but that is way too much for shipping

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by kalix It shouldn't hurt having both the straighteners and screen. It might actually be better. FYI, this is nothing new for anyone interested in these screens. Mazda actually uses two sets of screens in the RX8's intake tube. I removed one screen before to see if it would increase air flow, but I didn't really feel the difference. Also, can someone help me decipher the DH logs...I'm just curious am I suppose to be looking at the AFRs during the boost or through out the entire time?

You need to look at them all the time and through out the drive cycle.

Originally Posted by phantomspeed3 so basically all this is is a piece of mesh right before the MAF?

To simplify it, yes its just a piece of mesh before the MAF housing.

Originally Posted by racersir Why is shipping to PR zip code 00676 is $14.50 for the screen and not the same $4 dollars I was going to buy but that is way too much for shipping

Sorry, in order to ship there it cost more. Customs forms still need to be filled out for PR, until they get rid of that I have to charge that much.

[phantomspeed3]

well I just ordered you better not let me down

[ptperformance]

Originally Posted by phantomspeed3 well I just ordered you better not let me down

The only way I could let you down with this mod is to not send it. We have been getting emails and calls about this with customers stating how happy they are with the simplicity and the changes in the car. You will be very happy after the install.

[phantomspeed3]

okay good to hear for sure

[Czar Quanovan]

This might be one of the only mods I've heard of that has had almost no bad feedback or downside...I'll be buying soon.

[FreeFlyFreak]

Originally Posted by ptperformance The only way I could let you down with this mod is to not send it. We have been getting emails and calls about this with customers stating how happy they are with the simplicity and the changes in the car. You will be very happy after the install.

Not if you send it US Mail.

I used to live down there. FedEx and UPS is a pain in the ass for Puerto Rico shipping.
Just throw it in the US Mail.

[steven88]

I just installed this mod and its great...definitely a difference between stock and with a screen....two thumbs up for ptp

by the way...PTP, I sent you a PM in regards to the epoxy not being included with my package....I just went and got my own....so I PMed you for a refund...hopefully you got it...thanks

[FantasmoNegro]

Any before and after dynos yet?

[phantomspeed3]

hopefully I get mine today... but i would also like to see if their are any dyno changes

[Hot Shot]

Isn't this pretty much the same as the AEM Air Straightener only using mesh instead of the insert for the intake? Only reason I ask is that the AEM piece is $7 vs $17 for the mesh. Seems pretty pricey for a piece of mesh.

[FantasmoNegro]

Use both. With this deal I am not worried about gains, as long as it doesn't loose power I could maybe deal with even a two HP loss if it really does make the car feel physically better. But if it costs like five and up I'll be fine just how I am.

[steven88]

looks like john at ptp has not been online for a few days...im still waiting for my refund on the epoxy

[xxandrossxx]

This looksl ike it will be my next mod however I have a few questions first.

Is this cut to fit our specific intake by PTP or by us?
Can we order through you or would you prefer we order through your site?

Thanks!

*note* if these are obvious answers and I missed them...in my defense...I'm extremely hung over

looks like restriction to me, cant wait to see dyno results

[phantomspeed3]

Originally Posted by xxandrossxx This looksl ike it will be my next mod however I have a few questions first. Is this cut to fit our specific intake by PTP or by us? Can we order through you or would you prefer we order through your site? Thanks! *note* if these are obvious answers and I missed them...in my defense...I'm extremely hung over

it is not pre-cut for your intake but it is really easy to cut yourself with a pair of scissors to fit the intake to your needs, I received mine today, cut it to my liking, installed it and I have only noticed good so far, seems like better throttle response, quicker spool, and I also noticed a 1 psi on boost increase on my stock tune, can't promise that will happen for everyone but i know that all these things happened from installing this part

[(toao)fallen]

this look like a grate inexpensive mod
and the beast thing is its only a paycheck away

[Trader]

Has this changed anybodys LTFT??

[evidence]

Originally Posted by (toao)fallen this look like a grate inexpensive mod and the beast thing is its only a paycheck away

Haha.. was that a pun or did you really just mispell great? Either way good job

I'm also wondering about the restriction, as obviously it is one. I guess it comes down to just being a non discernable one or not.

[FantasmoNegro]

MOst GM guys descreen their MAF and its worth 2-3 hp with some reportedly gaining 5 from just doing that alone.

[phantomspeed3]

Originally Posted by Sleeper 362 MOst GM guys descreen their MAF and its worth 2-3 hp with some reportedly gaining 5 from just doing that alone.

well gm is stupid haha

[bf360]

Originally Posted by Sleeper 362 MOst GM guys descreen their MAF and its worth 2-3 hp with some reportedly gaining 5 from just doing that alone.

you forgot everything is backward in mazda world, we dont gain shit by leaning our cars out just make them run hotter, throwing on a big turbo and turning up the boost does nothing but lose power, oo yea so basically whatever works for every other dam car basically is the opposite for us lmao

[FantasmoNegro]

That is because of flaws in design not because physics is backwards in our world. Like I said until I see some actual numbers to support these claims I am going o hold on to my twenty. I wonder how many people are feeling wallet loss gains. I'm not saying it doesn't work, that is not what I am saying at all. I just want to see if there are substantial loses before I do this.

[evidence]

They also owe me 2$ or some epoxy BTW the option in the combo box is misspelled.. 'metal to platic epoxy'

[86AmishMs3]

Looking at the pictures I see potential problems, but it cant hurt anything. The wire mesh is on the verge of being too small, but the big thing is that wire mesh is not thick, that is it is not long, it does will not fully develop laminar flow and the laminar flow that is created will develop into turbulent flow mm's after it.

This is why air straighteners are not just two wires in front of the map but they have length to then to create laminar flow.

But this would be better then nothing as long as it is place close to the map. But on the cobb filter like that i could't see much benifits, plus it's right in front of the velocity stack and negates some of the effects of that.

[phantomspeed3]

Originally Posted by evidence They also owe me 2$ or some epoxy BTW the option in the combo box is misspelled.. 'metal to platic epoxy'

I didn't get mine either but I just cut it and fitted it myself

[86AmishMs3]

Below is what you want to straighten air. There are a few available sized and it's sold in 7 inch squares that you can cut to fit.



7 Inch Black Cell Honeycomb

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by 86azms3 Looking at the pictures I see potential problems, but it cant hurt anything. The wire mesh is on the verge of being too small, but the big thing is that wire mesh is not thick, that is it is not long, it does will not fully develop laminar flow and the laminar flow that is created will develop into turbulent flow mm's after it. This is why air straighteners are not just two wires in front of the map but they have length to then to create laminar flow. But this would be better then nothing as long as it is place close to the map. But on the cobb filter like that i could't see much benifits, plus it's right in front of the velocity stack and negates some of the effects of that.

I don't think of this as a true "straighener". It's not directing the flow in any direction, it's only smoothing out the air velocity over the entire diameter of the intake. That way your maf is reading true and uniform.

If you were to mount a 2nd sensor on the opposite side of the maf housing, despite being an inch or 2 apart, I would be willing to bet the readings will be off without the mesh, but much closer with the mesh.

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by Eazy I don't think of this as a true "straighener". It's not directing the flow in any direction, it's only smoothing out the air velocity over the entire diameter of the intake. That way your maf is reading true and uniform. If you were to mount a 2nd sensor on the opposite side of the maf housing, despite being an inch or 2 apart, I would be willing to bet the readings will be off without the mesh, but much closer with the mesh.

A straightener is the same thing as smoothing out air velocity. The bottom line is that there is not enough width to fully develop laminar flow which is needed for the maf, and secondly the flow will become turbulent again at an inch (approximately 5 times the width). 20 dollars for a screen that barely works, please. The maf housing will work better then the mesh alone, and if you want truely laminar and straight airflow then you should use the honeycomb, see picture, much cheaper too.