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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  ATP turbine housing porting
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Because everyone that has used one hasnt matched it to the car, diesels have generally low egts and low exhaust flow and they spool them just fine. This isnt a hokset turbo thread though. I have now basically completely unshouded the wg flapper and smoothed everything out. My thinking is that if you can get the exhaust through the turbine efficiently and through the wg efficiently it shouldnt be able to back up and blow the wg open and make the boost uncontrollable. The turbine itself should be good for 550-600ish but this housing is really a pile.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score the problem is you cant port the flutes inside the housing. thats where the flow really gets choked. theres plenty of people making big power on the ATP hotsides.
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From his wording though, I'm guessing it's either IWG or EWG on the mani
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Its IWG sorry. I looked at the flute and it *seems* ok. I took ALOT of material out of the EM flange/iwg area. In a couple spots im kinda worried about the strength now, but there is really alot of material in some areas that can be taken out with no worries.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Yours is ported just a little more and they smoothed everything out better than mine, maybe ill hit it with a burr again and see if I can make it prettier
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score So I figured out that if you port the wg hole enough the flapper gets stuck on it and may not close all the way.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I figured it out, I put a bevel on the flapper itself and it seats fine now.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Here is the porting that a buddy of mine did for me. I just picked it up from him on Monday. I also have the gtx3071r. Photos here. http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ml#post1729258
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i ported mine a lot, just stuck some magnets on there to help with the shavings and went to town, no creep on initial set up: UR catted DP - HTP 3" intake - ETS TMIC. However switching to a front mount i did see boost drop a little, as is to be expected, but when i added a 4" intake i was creeping about 2 psi (8 psi wastegate spring but seeing 10-10.5 psi). intake side effects creep just as much as exhaust side it seems.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score @Matrix311 that looks like a nice port job, looks like I need to take more metal out!
__________________ 2006 Mazdaspeed 6 P&P, flow benched, head with welded EGR and +1mm inconel exhaust valves (260/200cfm @ .500"), Web Cams, Custom crankcase breather with integrated air/oil seperator, Custom 3/4" ID pan vac system, Blow through maf, Port matched IM, CNC AN-12 ORB block oil adapter, CP-e 88mm Stage 2 pistons, Pauter 22.5mm rods, ARP main, head, and crank studs, CP-e injector seals, Injector stud kit, Cometec 88mm 5 layer HG, Deatschworks flow tested matched injectors, DCR VVT, PTP 2250psi RV, Corksport front sway, Whiteline rear sway, AWR front/rear sway links, TT FMM, AWR 70d DMM, JBR 80D PMM, SU RMM, TT FRDM, CP-e RRDM, Autotech CDFP, DW65c ITFP, Custom L/A IC with a dual pass 20x25x1.5 heat exchanger, Dual Cobra I/C pumps, 2.5" ID 700hp I/A intercooler, Custom DP, Corksport catback, Corksport exhaust hangers, chrome plated genpu valve cover, chrome plated timing cover, Spin on oil filter, Fluidyne dual pass AN-12 oil cooler, Hayden oil cooler fan controller, Dual 4.7" SPAL oil cooler fans, Canton Racing 22-480 oil tstat, Custom BMRS AN-12 oil lines, SPC ball joints, 55w/35w headlights and independently switched fogs on custom waterproof harnesses, PIAA Super Plasma driving and interior lights, rear diff cutout switch, 3M clear front cover, Volk 17x7.5 wheels, Custom tcase bearing cap upgrade, GS EBC 3 port, Redline SS hood lift, Versatune, Defi gauges, Innovate MTX-L WB gauge, triple center gauge pod, Block8head dual vent pod, Redline shift boot & ebrake cover & arm rest cover, Mazdaspeed CF ebrake handle, SBC Full Face Feramic Clutch Disc, Dashawk, ACL rod bearings, King main bearings, Cosworth BSD, Custom windage tray, Holset HX35w, Creative Performance T3 EWG manifold, HKS VTA BOV, A1 H11 head studs, Hylomar HG sealant, SSP EGR delete plate, JBR EGR IM plug, JGS 40mm Race EWG |
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