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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  Mazda3 Crank vs Speed3 Crank Found The Answers to some 1. Is the speed3 Crank Forged?? YES 2. How much HP can a Speed3 crank take before breaking?? 3. Is there a crank that can hold upto 700ish HP other then the Billet one for $3400?? 4. other then the rod journals being bigger on the speed 3 crank will the crank fit a mazda3 2.3L??? YES it bolts right in!! The rods journals are bigger on the speed3 Crank Any help would be awsome Last edited by relenger; 12-19-2010 at 08:22 AM. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score The rod and main journals on the ms3 crank are both larger and the ms3 crank may have a bigger stroke, I cant remember what the stoke is for the 2004 2.3l The ford ranger 2.3l crank was/is forged and should a bolt in.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Accourdint to my Mazda speed3 spec sheet (right from Mazda who sponsors are schools race speed3s) Its showin the mains as the same size as the mazda3..... the rods look to be bigger but no big deal. Looks like the crank throw is also the same.... HHHmmmm??????? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score The speed 3 crank specs: The block/girdle ID is ~58.42mm or ~2.3" The crank main OD is 2.045" Crank main available width on crank .835" Crank main bearing width .747" Main bearing thickness ... I forgot to get... I think its ~.115" but im prolly wrong. Rod ID 2.16" Crank rod OD 2.045" Rod bearing width .655" Rod bearing thickness .055" Rod bearing available room on rod .78" Rod bearing available width on crank .665" Those are approximate because every crank and bearing is slightly different.
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1. He thinks he's doing pretty well for himself considering his lack of spelling skills. (Hell, maybe he is; I'm not sure I know anyone else who can't spell to compare salaries to.) 2. He does't take to dick-ish sarcasm very well. Welcome to the forum buddy. Now DONATE!
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Pointless, as is this thread and when did i say " He thinks he's doing pretty well for himself considering his lack of spelling skills"??? Imagine if i could spell.. "2. He does't take to dick-ish sarcasm very well." Grow up!! do you see your parents talking like retards to one another?? Im here to help a local mazda3 guy get his car together!!! i think im donating RIGHT there!! i could care less about a speed3!! i got two SRT's that are faster in stock form then a modded speed3... Im not big into getting grocerys Last edited by relenger; 12-03-2010 at 06:28 AM. | |
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