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It's much slower than my speed but looking at the 1/4 time slips for speed3's I'm right in the same ballpark with speed3's with way more mods lol So im happy as hell.
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13.6, yes you need a BT at a minimum to hit those kind of times on da speeds.
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Originally Posted by aaronC5Z View Post
13.6, yes you need a BT at a minimum to hit those kind of times on da speeds.
No you don't.
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It almost makes sense to just go big BT first. $2k on bolt-on ATP kit + tuning will put you at around 320 hp. You have to tune to get any meaningful benefits out of any of the other upgradse anyway and the stock fuel system is robust enough to handle it.
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Originally Posted by Cheapspeed View Post
No you don't.
Says the guy who is running 14s with a modded MS3.
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Originally Posted by aaronC5Z View Post
Says the guy who is running 14s with a modded MS3.
Won't dispute that i have had about as many trips to the track as you have fingers in the past year. No skill. But my car doesn't need more power to achieve faster times.

@Smelson; broke 12's on k04 with similar mods.
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Originally Posted by Cheapspeed View Post
Won't dispute that i have had about as many trips to the track as you have fingers in the past year. No skill. But my car doesn't need more power to achieve faster times.

@Smelson; broke 12's on k04 with similar mods.
Is it safe to assume that you would need a BT (BNR S3 at a minimum) to run 13.6 ???
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Originally Posted by aaronC5Z View Post
Is it safe to assume that you would need a BT (BNR S3 at a minimum) to run 13.6 ???
That's one way but would cost alot more.

Practice, weight reduction, and track tune would be the other.
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Nator AZ has a member flirting with 12s stock turbo on street tires.
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Originally Posted by aaronC5Z View Post
Is it safe to assume that you would need a BT (BNR S3 at a minimum) to run 13.6 ???
No, lot's of people have gotten into the mid to upper 13's with bolt-ons and tunes. A few bone stocks have gotten into high 13's (perfect weather/conditions/elevation)
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Originally Posted by aaronC5Z View Post
13.6, yes you need a BT at a minimum to hit those kind of times on da speeds.
LOL I wasn't trying to say the 13.6 is fast but shit have you looked at those time slips lately with stock turbo speeds.... I mean at least i trapped 108-110 in my old speed lol
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Nator AZ has a member flirting with 12s stock turbo on street tires.
Stock turbo MS3 that got 11:97
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Here at the auto club speedway in Fontana DA is always 2500+ no track prep and at a slight incline i see bolted/tuned ST's run mid 14s. The quickest one ran a 13.6 @ 106 on a GT28, not that impressive if you ask me.
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I recall a stock MS3 running a 13.8-9 back in the day @ Fontana. It was a red Gen1, and some total faggot who can't drive named Philly did the run.
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Here at the auto club speedway in Fontana DA is always 2500+ no track prep and at a slight incline i see bolted/tuned ST's run mid 14s. The quickest one ran a 13.6 @ 106 on a GT28, not that impressive if you ask me.
I'm .5 seconds behind you with about 20% the mods you have.... lol What I have noticed that most ST drivers are awful drivers. Most of them are coming from old focus or svt and its their legit first "fast" car.
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I'm .5 seconds behind you with about 20% the mods you have.... lol What I have noticed that most ST drivers are awful drivers. Most of them are coming from old focus or svt and its their legit first "fast" car.
LMAO!!!! At you trying to compare your sea level track to ours down here!!!!!!!

Stock 5.0's run 13.5's out here!

Sorry to burst your bubble but you would have a 14+ second car out here....

HAHAHAHAHAHa...........

And as far as driver mod is concerned how do you explain a BT ST trapping 106??????
The more you spin the higher you trap! SLOW = SLOW
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Stock turbo MS3 that got 11:97
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f-DTAS0Sg
That's a full race prep car though. The one I'm talking about still has an interior, and doesn't change the tires when he takes it to the track. In fact, I believe he only takes the loose stuff out of the back, leaving the spare in as well. If he stripped it and put wrinkle walls on it, hed be deep into the 12s by now.

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Stock turbo MS3 that got 11:97
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f-DTAS0Sg
I've seen that but the guy out here is on street tires

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LMAO!!!! At you trying to compare your sea level track to ours down here!!!!!!!

Stock 5.0's run 13.5's out here!

Sorry to burst your bubble but you would have a 14+ second car out here....

HAHAHAHAHAHa...........

And as far as driver mod is concerned how do you explain a BT ST trapping 106??????
The more you spin the higher you trap! SLOW = SLOW
DA usually is anywhere between 1500-2000 in the summer around here. HE PROB SUCKS AT DRIVING! He trapped 2mph faster than me! He needs to learn how to drive because I bet hes not dealing with 350tq at 2500rpm. IDGAF what stock does out there pussy dont be upset that your full modded 320hp speed3 is .5 seconds faster than a st with 2 bolt ons and a tune.
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I have a buddy here that has went 12.9's on factory tires. @Livingframe; Believe he has cut numerous 1.9 sixties, so he is well above the norm for street tire guys.
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Originally Posted by MZRSPEED View Post
I have a buddy here that has went 12.9's on factory tires. @Livingframe; Believe he has cut numerous 1.9 sixties, so he is well above the norm for street tire guys.
Thats my goal to cut a 1.9 lol So far my best on street tires is a 2.0 consistent 2.1 area though. Hard to do on a normal street night.
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